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Kracka
11-07-2009, 02:18 PM
Maybe we have a huge conflict of interest in the military these days.
Of course we have a huge conflict of interest! I spoke with a family member of mine in the military and asked why we allow muslims in the United States military and I was told its because we're desperate for soldiers. Seems a bit counter-productive as this event has proved if you ask me...
hellomynameis
11-09-2009, 02:49 PM
Of course we have a huge conflict of interest! I spoke with a family member of mine in the military and asked why we allow muslims in the United States military and I was told its because we're desperate for soldiers. Seems a bit counter-productive as this event has proved if you ask me...
It's disappointing that you say this, especially considering that intolerance is much of the reason we're currently fighting terrorism in much of the middle east. Are you really in favor of excluding certain people based on their religious beliefs, country of origin, or any other reason?
The people who tend to commit acts of terrorism, which this particular scenario doesn't yet seem to be proven one, more often than not are extremists. They are violently intolerant of anything other than their own views on [insert anything here]. The same extreme intolerance appears in this thread, and especially in this comment....I really hope that no one on 'Style is a bigot in this day and age.
Kracka
11-09-2009, 03:43 PM
It's disappointing that you say this, especially considering that intolerance is much of the reason we're currently fighting terrorism in much of the middle east. Are you really in favor of excluding certain people based on their religious beliefs, country of origin, or any other reason?
When that's the exact group of people we're fighting then yes I do believe they should be excluded; if not its just a giant conflict of interest. Call me what you will, but enlisting a practicing muslim to fight other muslims, especially when its for the "white Christians," just doesn't make sense.
Kracka
11-09-2009, 03:55 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/us/10inquire.html
"Mr. Awlaki said Monday on his English language Web site that Mr. Hasan was “a hero.” The cleric said, “He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people.”
He added, “The only way a Muslim could Islamically justified serving as a solider in the U.S. Army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal.”"
hellomynameis
11-09-2009, 04:40 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/us/10inquire.html
"Mr. Awlaki said Monday on his English language Web site that Mr. Hasan was “a hero.” The cleric said, “He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people.”
He added, “The only way a Muslim could Islamically justified serving as a solider in the U.S. Army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal.”"
All Muslims are not terrorists, and I'd have to imagine that there are plenty of Muslims that proudly serve in the US Armed Services. They serve on behalf of the American people, which are comprised of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, ad nauseum. They make take their orders from the Commander in Chief, who happens to be a Christian, but they serve on behalf of all of us. They are currently protecting the interests of the people who live in this country, not one man. I noticed this in the Fox News article you linked to as well but decided to not bring it up in my earlier post.
I'm not commenting on this specific incident, he very well may have been a terrorist and joined the military for the sole reason of doing this. I don't know. However, it is deplorable to support segregation of any kind.
By the way, we're not at war with 'the Muslims'.
Kracka
11-09-2009, 04:51 PM
Luckily in this country we all have the right to form our own opinions :) I'm also glad that I finally live in a state that generally agrees with mine.
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5A85DK20091109
Kracka
11-09-2009, 05:54 PM
Now that this guy is awake and talking they should drag him into the yard, open fire on him, and let him go tell his god face to face how great he is.
Seriously though, will he be prosecuted under TX state law allowing the death penalty or will a separate set of military law come into play?
*edit*
I just looked into it a bit further and it is possible he will face the death penalty.
1ViciousGSX
11-09-2009, 06:03 PM
Whoopy, let's save him so we can KILL HIM!!!! :usa1:
Kracka
11-09-2009, 06:05 PM
Whoopy, let's save him so we can KILL HIM!!!! :usa1:
I personally feel they should have let him bleed out in the field...
1ViciousGSX
11-09-2009, 06:14 PM
I personally feel they should have let him bleed out in the field...
Yeah, me too. But then the doctors wouldn't paid, the lawyers wouldn't get paid, the judges wouldn't get paid, the funeral homes wouldn't get paid and so on. Gotta love how that "Hope and Change" is working. Welcome to the liberal way of life!!
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