Shooting at Fort Hood, TX

[Kracka]

LOL its amazing isn't it? I'm just sitting here patiently awaiting the Republic of Texas to secede from the US :)

http://www.texasflagman.com/images/Secede05_33.jpg

[1ViciousGSX]

Oh and I forgot that the media would only get one weeks worth of coverage, but now they get decades worth of material!!!

[Kracka]

By the way, we're not at war with 'the Muslims'.
We're not? They attribute this terror we're fighting as muslim religious purpose. Of course for political correctness reasons they can not label this as a war on muslims, but the words muslim and terrorist have become more interchangeable as this drags on and people are continually blown up in the name of their god.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/09/AR2009110903618.html

[TheBlizzard]

I didn't read this thread for a few days because I knew what would be in it, and I was right, whenever this type of shit happens you will always different sides of opinion. However, you will always get the whiny tree huggers that will say that it had nothing to do with religion and personal background. What fucking planet are you on?

Of course it has everything to do with religion, it has everything to do with the fact that we let individuals into our military that practice the same religion as the people we have been fighting against for years.

How many fucking times is this country going to get burned before we say fuck all of these assholes and not let any of them do shit, even come into this country for that matter.

Sure it is ignorant to label every person that wears a rag on their head a terrorist, but at the end of the day can you blame anyone for thinking that? Look at what has happened over the years, we trust, try to be diverse, equal opportunity, free speech (religion), then in the end innocent people get fucking killed because some towel head got a calling from his god and started shooting everybody.

Great he will get the dealth penalty, but thats even bitter sweet, easy way out since most of those douche bags want to fucking die anyway, there are plenty of better ways to make him pay for what he did (insert anything here).

"Nidal Hassan (sic) is a hero," Awlaki said. "He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people."

That says it all. This whole thing just pisses me off, especially people who are sticking up and feeling bad for this guy.

[asshanson]

I'm not sticking up for the guy, and I would push capital punishment for him. But I disagree with disallowing Muslims in the military. Sure we are at war with some of them right now, but if we ever go to war with a country of white people of Christian beliefs, should most of the military not be allowed to fight against them?

I know there are millions of Muslims that don't agree with the actions of terrorists; it's not acceptable in my opinion to group them all together. They don't all want to destroy our country. I'm good friends with people of different beliefs and they don't want to kill for religious differences.

[polishmafia]

Kracka for President of the One United State of Texas! ;)

Along the same lines of discussion in this thread... I have a close family friend who grew up in Iraq, and hearing his views on what happened in Iraq the last 20 years really makes you feel different feelings across the board. I can understand where the feelings of this "solider" are coming from, but there is absolutely no excuse for what he did. As far as I am concerned he is a domestic terrorist and should be executed... painfully.

[Kracka]

Well said Blizz.

My question is why do these muslims live here if they hate our country and military so much? Go back to your own damn country and get blown up in some market by another whack-job. Gee, that sounds wonderful, no wonder they hate America... Oh yeah, its because we "allow" our women to show their faces in public!

[TheBlizzard]

Yeah we just had a little talk about this at work, a buddy of mine that just got back from Iraq said that they are so desperate for soldiers that they will enlist individuals before they are even citizens of the US, once they are enlisted they rush them through the citizenship process and on they go.

It's our open door policy that is fucked up, if it were up to me I would close the fucking gates to all these douche bags that want to come to the US and fly their home countries flags and shit. If your country is so great and you are so proud of it that you want to paste your flag in the bag of your truck then GO BACK THERE!

I think this country has done enough helping out for awhile, stop immigration until you can take care of your own people first, stop fighting other peoples battles and fix shit in the US first. If we stopped taking in all these fucking terrorists, through attrition we wouldn't have to worry as much about it. But with our open door policy it will just never stop, I read some stat that there is an estimated 5,000 single sleeper cell terrorists in the US at any given time.

My question is HOW THE FUCK DID THEY GET HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE?

[1ViciousGSX]

Kracka and Blizzard hit it on the head of the nail!

If anybody wants to turn this country into something that models what another country is or does, why not just pack your shit and move there??? Sure seems like the easiest thing to do instead of wasting years of your life trying to change this country. See, this one thing is what really separates the liberals from the conservatives. Conservatives think YOU have the ability to take care of your self and that government should just be the "watch dog" that lays out the laws that make it fair for everybody to be on a level playing field, makes sure those laws are followed while getting out of the way and standing on the sidelines of your life. Liberals on the other hand think YOU can't wipe your own ass without them telling you what's the best way to do it while taxing you to death to support the "how to wipe your ass" agency they created to put your money into their pockets.

[hellomynameis]

So, let me get this straight. Based on what most of you have said here it sounds like you guys would have been in favor of the Japanese internment camps during World War 2. Do you also favor McCarthyism?

And, 1ViciousGSX, when you say "If anybody wants to turn this country into something that models what another country is or does..." who or what are you referring to? Correct me if I am wrong but I'm pretty sure this country was founded under the principles of equality for all men and freedom from political and religious persecution.

Reminds me of simple quote: Those who forget the past are condemmed to repeat it.