The Black Beast

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

good to see dad and you got it all back together. I head from dad there was some problems with it oing together
Yeah, there was a broken off stud in the outlet side of the turbine housing that was more difficult to get off than we thought it would be, so we had to drill it out then clean up the threads with a tap. Whoever clocked the compressor housing last time didn't grind off all of the little locater pin so we had to get that out the rest of the way. Also there were some messed up threads in the outlet of the compressor housing, so we had to clean out those threads. Also, the oil feed fitting wouldn't get tight, so we had to use some red loctite to get that to tighten up. Then just as we were finishing it up on Thursday night, the compressor housing popped off because we didn't have it on the backing plate far enough to get the snap ring in the groove all the way.

So it was way more of a pain in the ass than I thought it would be, but it went back together pretty easily on Friday morning. Ken had it all back together by the time I got there at 1, and nothing leaks so I'm happy. Now I just gotta get that coupler so I can put my intake and filter back on.

[goodhart]

37psi spike to 27-28psi by redline here. hit 40psi a couple times.

On a 16g?

Yes on a 16g. Mine will hold 30psi on the stock wastegate just on the spring pressuare,but that is a modded ralliart gate


40 psi on a 16g? Am I reading that right? I'm sorry I guess I've just never heard of a 16g that can actually run that much boost.

[4g63tcrazy]

Looks like a few mitsustyle guys need to read up on the 16g's! Haha. Lately since E85 has become big alot of people have been pushing 16's waay past what would seem to be their limit and put down some good numbers with it.

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

^^ Exactly why I switched to it. I figured with my cams, intake manifold and external wastegate, I should be able to hold boost better in the upper RPM ranges. So far it's rock solid at 20 psi to redline. I don't really wanna go much higher than that til I get tuned on e-85 though, since every now and then I'll get a little knock in 3rd gear. I really need to get a damn laptop... haha

That, and it's much easier to drive around town now. If I wanna go around someone quickly, I don't need to downshift since I can hit 20 psi in 5th gear at about 3300 rpm, which puts me at about 70 mph and pulling hard. Judging by the butt dyno, it feels like it's pulling about 90% as hard as the 3076 was, but now it just starts at a lower rpm. The only thing I miss about that turbo is the way it sounded when it spooled up. haha

[Super Bleeder!!]

The only thing I miss about that turbo is the way it sounded when it spooled up. haha

anti-surge covers do indeed make lovely sounds :)

[goodhart]

Looks like a few mitsustyle guys need to read up on the 16g's! Haha. Lately since E85 has become big alot of people have been pushing 16's waay past what would seem to be their limit and put down some good numbers with it.

40psi is just waaaay past the efficiency range of a turbo that small, you would just be blowing hot air at that boost level even with E85. A fellow style member's car was up to 31 or so on the dyno and the higher we went the less power we made so we ended up going back down to 29psi because the turbo was simply out of breath.

Also according to this website, the highest boost any of these guys were running on a 16g was 31.5 psi
http://dsmtimes.org/times.php?Header_Type=Turbo_16g&Page=1


If someone here is running 40psi on a 16g, I want to see the setup because that would be a hell of a feat!

[4g63tcrazy]

On dsmtalk there was these guys running 40psi on their 16g with E85 and put down 499whp. That's the most power to date with the 16g. You can do some research yourself to get more creditable facts instead of me just telling you if you'd like. There is also english racing who ran meth/E85 with NO intercooler running 30psi to redline with no issues.

[goodhart]

You got any links to these people's setups? I'd like to see them.

[4g63tcrazy]

I don't have them saved no. But there are alot of threads on Talk about high boost with 16g's. They get very in depth also I believe. Been a little while since I've read any of them.

[turbotalon1g]

Kevin I have an old laptop that I am getting rid of if you need soemthing for tuning.

I only spiked 40psi and couple times usually in 4th.