Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*

[BOVADDICT]

cigs are gay too.. dont do those :)

[1QUICK4]

1quick4: Pot is harder to get and more expensive. How would a bum afford it?
You completely missed the point of that post Tauni but I guess it's OK since it wasn't directed at you


One more brilliant comment brought to you in part by Stoners of America.
And one more snide ass remark from an alcoholic harlotte of a teenage girl.

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Not you, him. He said inthat post that no one here knew what they were tlaking about because none of us did drugs or whatever.First of all, he didn't say that no one knew what they were talking about. He just pointed out that the majority of people have a biased opinion of this shit because we were all taught to be terrified of drugs and whatnot in school and 90% were and those people are like "POT IS THE SUM OF ALL EVIL THINGS TO COME" and "YOURE A GAYWAD FOR SMOKING, GO DO SOME COKE NOW RETARD, THE POT WILL LEAD TO IT EVENTUALLY." Just like HaredX said, I too know a ton of people that are fully driven and successful even though they like to get high everyday. Those people dont need to pick up a book do something with their life, they just use their freetime differently. Plus, all of the people that you see that are "stoners that can barely talk, walk, etc." they are the people that are constantly high and need it to function normal to have fun ALL THE TIME; those are the ones that ruin it for the rest of us.

tpunx99GSX, not all people that smoke or use drugs are hippies and think they're just like the people from the 70s' and shit. I don't know of a single person that uses drugs to "be cool." Every single person I know or could ask would think that's just flat out dumber than anything possible. But you have another one of those biased opinions that comes from what we learned in school beacuse we were never taught the REAL FACTS and TRUTHS about pot and whatnot and we were mainly taught stereotypical things. Just because there is a stereotype of something, doesn't make it so and every person god damn well knows that. There are fucking tons of stereotypes of black people, but do we go around and say "Fuck the blacks, they're all uneducated!"? No, because we know that there are a ton that are good people and don't fall to the stereotypes of their race and we even become friends with them sometimes.

And to all of you that like to drink here and there and say "alcohol is the only smart drug," that is just stupid to say when we all know that people die from it everyday and know how addicting even that is; ALCOHOL is a drug too!!! But no, we weren't taught to think of it like that and most people are oblivious to the fact that it wastes away your liver. If alcohol and cigs are so widely accepted and LEGAL with all the cancers and problems they bring, then why isn't pot? Like HaredX said, there is absolutely no negative side effect of the drug on your health, except for the fact that yes, it does decrease your lung capacity a bit and there are those people that can't live without and waste away and ruin their lives. But they aren't getting all the cancers you can get like from cigs or the physical damage that alcohol causes. No drug is a smart drug in any way shape or form fathomable, some are just fun sometimes and in moderation.

I'm not saying that anyone is wrong here, and everyone is entitle to their opinion, I'm just laying it out how I see it.

And finally, all of you fucks stop calling me a dumbass and a retard and whatnot. What the fuck is the "OFF TOPIC" section of the forum for anyway? If you don't like something, then fucking leave it alone and don't be a fucking 13 year old and call people retards and shit like that for what they post. I shake things up, I cross the barrier, I try to get people to talk about different things. I mean, look at this discussion were having now; it's just like being in a debate session and I think that maybe were all learning something here. I didn't post this to piss people off. I am who I am, and I happen to have a goofy outgoing personality, and until any of you actually meet me, shut the fuck up about your opinion about me. I didn't think that posting something I thought to be interesting and funny TO ME would turn into such a shit fest. Like DSMStyle said, this is a good debate and it's interesting to see what people have to say, but don't make things personal guys, were all adults here. If I really was the dumbass stupid retard everone seems to think I was, I would have posted this in something like the "Forced Induction" section and gotten banned. And I'll stop posting things like "PWNeD!!11!!!" and shit just to make everyone happy, even though I find it funny when someone gets shot down in a debate; it's not like I want to piss people off or am trying to be dick on purpose or anything.

I am ready for the shelling on my ass to begin unless no one here is a child anymore.

[Black97civic]

Yes there is no physical link, let me share with you all the reason that pot IS a gateway drug.

No, that is exactly why it isn't a gateway drug. That is the real definition fo a gateway drug, not what the "propaganda" of the war on drugs would have you believe. Alcohol and nicotine are actually more likely to be considered gateway drugs by definition, but since they are legal, you won't hear the government say that.

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

No, that is exactly why it isn't a gateway drug. That is the real definition fo a gateway drug, not what the "propaganda" of the war on drugs would have you believe. Alcohol and nicotine are actually more likely to be considered gateway drugs by definition, but since they are legal, you won't hear the government say that.Exactly my point on all this shit, thank you for saying that.

[HaredX]

you are all so close-minded just like pretty much everyone else I have met except for my good friends, for some reason you all seem to think that smoking pot will ruin your life and you won't amount to anything, I believe I read someone say "you will be the ones cleaning my garbage cans at work" Again, I am a bartender, I make about $150/day doing that and I also own an online company on the side and make $250/week doing that, I smoke pretty much every day of the week and I drink maybe once a week or so and I am doing perfectly fine for myself. I am done trying to show you guys that not everyone that smokes is a low-life loser that won't amount to anything because the majority of you have your heads 15 feet up your asses with the exception of a few, thanks to Docken and DSMStyle for at least being open minded, and the rest of you can just fuck off.

[Matt D.]

you are all so close-minded just like pretty much everyone else I have met except for my good friends, for some reason you all seem to think that smoking pot will ruin your life and you won't amount to anything, I believe I read someone say "you will be the ones cleaning my garbage cans at work" Again, I am a bartender, I make about $150/day doing that and I also own an online company on the side and make $250/week doing that, I smoke pretty much every day of the week and I drink maybe once a week or so and I am doing perfectly fine for myself. I am done trying to show you guys that not everyone that smokes is a low-life loser that won't amount to anything because the majority of you have your heads 15 feet up your asses with the exception of a few, thanks to Docken and DSMStyle for at least being open minded, and the rest of you can just fuck off.
I'm as open minded as anyone, but it's no one's fault but yours for not being able to stand up to criticism. Do you expect people to accept this stuff with open arms? Hell no! Grow a spine already.

[HaredX]

By no means am I asking anyone to accept my lifestyle I'm just asking that everyone stop being so ignorant and making generalizations. "All stoners are losers who will only be able to get minimum wage jobs cleaning out garbage cans." "Everyone that smokes pot will eventually be addicted to meth and heroine." etc. etc. The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance it is the illusion of knowledge. You all seem to be very good at making it seem that you are knowledgable, however nothing but ignorant gibberish is spilling out onto the screen.

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Yea, why do people think that we're trying to get everyone to accecpt that drugs are good? Were merely saying that people need to stop being so ignorant about the subject and maybe they won't feel so negative about it. We don't care that people don't like it, can't do shit about it either, but stop thinking that we want people to accept it.

[Tauni]

Alright, well how about this for a chang of pace. My best friend started out smoking pot every once and awhile at parties. After awhile it became an everyday accourance. After awhile he started "experimenting" with other shit. I'd sit and beg him nightly to quit things because I knew it was bad and I knew he was hurting himself. Sooner or later he became very depressed and wouldnt come around any of anymore. I'd stil call him every night and talk to him about his problem but it never helped. One day I got off work and got a phone call from a friend saying he had over dosed on oxy cotin over the night and his twin brother found him dead in his bed.

I'm not saying this happens to everyone, but you wonder why I shove it down people's throats?? I don't give a shit what you do. Pot is fine if you can control it. But it's nothing to go around being like "oh yah I smoke pot, blah blah blah." It's a drug. Drugs are not good no matter how you look at it.

So fine. Go ahead and say I'm shoving it down people's throats to be honest I don't care. But understand that I watched my best friend kill himself doing drugs and I don't think its anything to just throw around.