Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*

[xveganxcowboyx]

First of all, if you know anything about pot you know that you have to be EXTREMELY close to someone smoking it in a horribly ventilated area in order to even get remotely high from second-hand smoke. Secondly, second-hand marijuana smoke is FAR less harmful then tobacco smoke yet tobacco is legal. And your sporting event analogy is just retarded, tobacco isn't allowed at a sport stadiums and I'm sure marijuana wouldn't be either if it were legal, there are ways you can control it if legalized that would be much more cost-efficient and safe then keeping it illegal.Just being near someone who is smoking pot is enough to make me go stupid. Not enough to give me a contact, but enough that I feel 'fuzzy' for the next day or so.

[HaredX]

That would be the placebo effect. I don't care what you say no feeling from pot ever lasts for over 24 hours especially if it is merely second hand smoke. Before I started smoking I would sit in a room with people smoking pot and never feel even slightly abnormal. In order to get a contact high you would need to be in a small space like a car with all windows rolled up and no air circulation.

[tpunx99GSX]

I think this thread killed any shot we had of landing that big sponsor some knew about. LOL!
AJ stop trying to land "High Times" As a sponsor, they wont give you free weed.

[Halon]

I know I'm blowing stuff outta proportion now. It's because this thread is ridiculous and needs to disappear.

I'm waiting for him to run for president, and tell the world how he didn't inhale!

[HaredX]

If I was president I would smoke pot during a press conference

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH fuckin a Jared

[Tauni]

Ok sleepy2lazy: In a sense I see your point. However, I can say [and I am not by any means proud of this, more less ashamed, but it will make my point stronger so whatever] that in my lowest points, I have abused them both. When I abused the alcohol, I ended up at the hospital with alcohol poisoning. My dad picked me up from the hospital and I was in a FUCK load of trouble. Then I abused pot. Nothing bad happened. I walked it all off. Can't do that with booze. I feel much safer smoking pot. Generally I feel much more controlled and calm. I have never said shit I didn't mean smoking pot, as apposed to when I drink, a lot of what I say is stuff I'm pulling out of my ass. I've never gotten into a fight high, which I have done drunk. And I have never woken up in strange places high, which I have done drunk. I'd still rather drink just because I have more fun, but I just don't really agree with your statement.

As far as legalizing pot. I see both sides of the arguement. I can see where the crime rate may go down should pot be legalized. But I can also see the vicious cycle starting over with something worse, which could also lead to worse crime, since the next drug will be harder. I think if they just leave it illegal things will be fine. Either way people are going to smoke pot, so whats the point in changing things?

Haredx: I agree with AJ [dsmstyle] 100%. What is your problem anyways? Why did you come on this site? Do you even have a DSM? If you do, more power to you, but if not then why are you here? All you have done is proven you ignorance, and made a horrible impression. I think the majority of us don't agree with your views, and you calling us closed minded, even though we have valid reasons to back up our opinions, does not help one bit. My advice to you is to lay off the pot and grow up a little bit. It might help you see things a little clearer.

[HaredX]

I think you are the one that has growing up to do. Most people here for that matter have a lot of growing up to do. The point in changing things is because people who are doing something so innocent and harmless as smoking pot are going to jail for longer terms then most sex offenders. We are spending BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of our precious tax dollars trying to criminalize something so miniscule and harmless. Your argument about legalizing pot increasing crime has no background to it. Places like Amsterdam, where pot isnt legal but is FAR less prosecuted, have SIGNIFICANTLY lower crime rates and you wonder why that is? It's because they don't have a black market of drug dealers who will do anything and take down anyone to stay at the top, all you have to do to get a joint is stop by the local coffee shop. There are no drug dealers with thousands of dollars worth of product and cash on them to get robbed and people aren't trying to escape police in fear that they might go to jail for 25 years just for owning a stupid plant. The drug laws in America are WAY too strict and I, myself, being a tax payer, am sick and tired of throwing my hard earned money towards a pointless cause, if we used all the money we are spending trying to stop such a pointless crime towards a larger evil, such as poverty, we could pretty much eliminate it. My father is one of the smartest people I know full of wisdom and knows at least something about pretty much every subject and he has used pot since he was a teenager, so please stop with your moronic and ignorant comments that people who smoke are immature and stupid.

[tim]

I think this thread killed any shot we had of landing that big sponsor some knew about. LOL!
I sure hope not. Sounded like something good for the site.

At any rate I dont understand how Mr. HaredX can sit and bash people for voicing opinions that differ from his? Everyone has their own views and opinions and that is how it should be. If people can smoke marijuana or Salvia or whatever and not have a problem with it good for them. I just know that it isnt for me and that it has ruined a lot of my friends lives indirectly.

Drugs, if it is mairjuana or cocaine or alchohol are not good for us and shouldnt be used at all. People who do use them do it at their own risk and should understand all consequences related to them and people around them. Because, like I said before there is no drug that is good for you(aside from prescriptions obviously) and if the drug wont directly hurt you it can hurt you indirectly from the actions you do while on it.

[Tauni]

I think you are the one that has growing up to do. Most people here for that matter have a lot of growing up to do. The point in changing things is because people who are doing something so innocent and harmless as smoking pot are going to jail for longer terms then most sex offenders. We are spending BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of our precious tax dollars trying to criminalize something so miniscule and harmless. Your argument about legalizing pot increasing crime has no background to it. Places like Amsterdam, where pot isnt legal but is FAR less prosecuted, have SIGNIFICANTLY lower crime rates and you wonder why that is? It's because we don't have drug dealers who will do anything and take down anyone to stay at the top, all you have to do to get a joint is stop by the local coffee shop. There are no drug dealers with thousands of dollars worth of product and cash on them to get robbed and people aren't trying to escape police in fear that they might go to jail for 25 years just for owning a stupid plant. The drug laws in America are WAY too strict and I, myself, being a tax payer, am sick and tired of throwing my hard earned money towards a pointless cause, if we used all the money we are spending trying to stop such a pointless crime towards a larger evil, such as poverty, we could pretty much eliminate it.

Ok I was trying to be nice about everything I said, but you have got to be one of the biggest retards ever. I'm sorry we have a lot more self respect and dignity than to look stupid by smoking pot, but don't even sit here and say that we are closed minded and need to grow up because I'm sorry but you are a little over ruled on that one. You don't even have any right to say something like that, considering we backed up all of our agruements. Don't even bitch about taxes, either. You spend billions of dollars on meaningless bullshit, other than just prosecuting stoners for "opening up their minds" and "seeing life in a different light." Like all of the bullshit stadiums they decide to build, while high schools like the one I went to fall apart and get no funding. Ok fine, so stoners stay in jail longer than sex offenders. Trust me, that I agree with you on that, and couldn't agree more. I would give anything to have those shit heads who hurt women rot in jail for a good portion, if not their entire life, but when you run for President you can handle that right? You seem to think this is some big joke. It's not. I think you must have smoked yourself retarded and I don't think you have any place here. If it were up to me you'd be long gone. Lucky for you I'm not a mod.