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FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
98 Eagle Talon Tsi, AWD, Auto, Big 16 G Turbo, with RRE JPipe, Ingen Intake, Brode UICP, 650 FIC Injectors, 255 Walbro FP, DSMLINK on a 95 EPROM ECU, Apexi N1 Turbo back, catless Exhaust system.
I am grateful for everyone's advice, but right or wrong, I've decided I'm going to have to continue building this Auto car up for atleast this summer.
Here's the question, given the specs that this car has a fairly small Turbo now, <a big 16G>, and has the dreaded Automatic, <worse than having cancer> tranny, would your next up grade be a FMIC to possibly get more timing, or go with the ZEX 50-75 wet NO2 kit to get a quicker spool going out of the hole? Considering that they both will cost ~$800 for nice kits either way, would like your 2 cents as to what you'd do, and why? <besides just sell the yellow "cancer car" for nothing asap">?
Many Thanks in Advance......!
Howie
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
FMIC increases horsepower all the time, probably 20-25whp on you setup. Nitrous will only add it when you push the button and your bottle is full and warmed up. I prefer to have it on tap all the time. A big reason is that I am too lazy to fill the damn bottle all the time, and it isn't cheap either!
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
Figure nitrous around $5 a pound usually, and you'll most likely be running a 10 pound bottle. Do the math.
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Figure nitrous around $5 a pound usually, and you'll most likely be running a 10 pound bottle. Do the math.
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So on lets say a 5 second hole shot, on a 75 hp jet, about how many shots like this can you get out of this $50.00 bottle?
Generaly how many shots can you get out of a bottle?
TIA.......
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
Skip it, found some good general info here:
http://members.aol.com/agspeed/nos.htm#7
Q: How long will the bottle last?
A: This largely depends on the type of nitrous kit and jetting used. For example, a 125 HP Power Shot kit with a standard 10 lb. capacity bottle will usually offer up to 7 to 10 full quarter-mile passes. For power levels of 250 HP, 3 to 5 full quarter-mile passes may be expected. If nitrous is only used in 2nd and 3rd gears, the number of runs will be more.
So in my case roughly maybe ~25 shots per bottle, so around $2.00 a shot?
~$2.00 a shot!
Screw that, I'm going the FMIC route!
Or maybe just get a new 20G..........:->
Thanks for the input......
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
make up your mind with all of this... christ
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
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make up your mind with all of this... christ
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
Here ya go Howie, an automatic which one could say it built and it actually supposed to be running in the near future: http://www.its-over.net/modificatoins.htm
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
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Holy Crap does this guy have some major cash wrapped up in this ride!
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
If you are thinking the 20g route, I have a nice setup for sale. You would want to go with atleast a supra IC though... The setup made 426whp.
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
FMIC no question.
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
There is no up keep or father cost with the FMIC. That's the way I would go. You can always plan on the N2O next (after the FMIC). Also N2O is $4 per lb. not $5.
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Re: FMIC or Wet NO2 on a Automatic with a 16 G?
Thanks for all the input, I'd really like the NO2 kit for out of the hole on this auto dog, but first things first. This kit should be here next week to start the fun. BTW he's going to do the powder coat in the dreaded YELLOW as I requested for no extra charge....hehe
http://www.extremeintercoolers.com/2g_7_kits.htm
Thanks guys for the solid info!
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