05-16-2012
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PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
I saw talk of it on the PG SA thread so hell, I figured I would start it.
Who's in? I am not as familiar with the DSM setups, mostly evo setups so curious who all will be in this class?
I have serious doubts about my car making it there, but I will do my best. I am going to be there spectating at a minimum. But if I race it will be SA/U for sure.
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05-16-2012
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
I might be, depends if i get to use slicks.
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05-16-2012
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
I might be, depends if i get to use slicks.
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Yes you can!
As long as you install a VCE and go FWD...
Just a repost of the SA/U rules:
- Stock frame turbocharger
- External wastegates are acceptable in any configuration
- Intake and Exhaust manifold upgrades are acceptable in any configuration
- 2G DSMs may run TD05H variations (14B, 16G, etc)
- Must have full exhaust that exists behind rear tires
- Unlimited fuel modifications (alternative fueling allowed, injection of methanol and nitrous allowed)
- Any ECU mods allowed (standalones allowed)
- Tire Restrictions
- AWD/RWD -- DOT approved drag radials
- FWD -- Slicks up to 24.5"
I'm in of course. I am really anxious to fix my daily driver so I can crank the power on the Talon and test!
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05-16-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
There might need to be more comment on evo turbos in there, unless they all the bolt-ons look stock.
damn it, they should let awd/rwd run slicks too!
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05-16-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
There might need to be more comment on evo turbos in there, unless they all the bolt-ons look stock.
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I asked for clarification last year (from MAP) and I was told as long as it was 'bolt-on' you were ok.
This of course could get really out of hand if a person were creative.
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05-16-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
There are all kinds of evo bolt ons. I think ATP even makes a 35r bolt on which is stupid looking but they make it.
I am pretty sure the rules for SA include a stock compressor cover so even many actual bolt on turbos (EF3, EF4 etc) won't make SA because they use the bigger comp cover.
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05-16-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
Murlo raises a good point, if not you could use a bolton 6266 even.
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05-16-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
They are not going to limit you to a stock compressor cover in SA/U -that's what SA is for. The rules for SA state, "Compressor / turbo inlet must be stock size." SA/U mentions nothing of the like.
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Last edited by Tachyon; 05-16-2012 at 05:09 PM..
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05-16-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
They are not going to limit you to a stock compressor cover in SA/U -that's what SA is for. The rules for SA state, "Compressor / turbo inlet must be stock size." SA/U mentions nothing of the like.
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Correct, I know SA/U isn't I was simply saying SA had a compressor limit. All that is limiting SA/U is its title...stock appearing!
Sure you can bolt on a 6266 but is that stock appearing...ummm no, lol.
The class is made for the larger appearing stock frame turbos basically. All of them should be MHI turbo based i'd assume. |
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05-16-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
The class is made for the larger appearing stock frame turbos basically. All of them should be MHI turbo based i'd assume.
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This is what I gather as well. If one were to fix a HX40 housing to a bolt-on turbine, I think there might be a judgement call enforced.
I know the "U" class was designed under feedback from a lot of us here to accommodate the most common type of turbo built car you would see on the street, while keeping it competitive for those who do have fully stock turbos (evo SRT MS3), in standard "SA"
While I've seen nothing prohibiting a massive bolt on setup, I think the gentleman's agreement here would be to run in a faster class. I know I would if I had a 60lb/m turbo on a lighter car.
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05-16-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
I thought it was stock appearing turbo, but the unlimited part was everything else.
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05-16-2012
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Join Date: May 2010
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
I know someone that has an Evo HTA FP Red for sale... just sayin'
...I classed my way out of any hope of being competative.
Me and Troy will be holdin' down KS/U with high 10's... haha.
Last edited by bramagedained; 05-16-2012 at 11:12 PM..
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05-17-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
^Hopefully.
There were more low 11s in the 130s last year, the honda guys will be the ones to beat in that class IIRC.
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05-19-2012
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
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Originally Posted by bramagedained
Me and Troy will be holdin' down KS/U with high 10's... haha.
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Pfft, Bryce will be pwnin you guys with 650 dynojet, he's got the driver mod 
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05-19-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
bryce wont be in that class, Mine and josh's are 64mm compressor wheels  Bryce can luckily race the lower class haha |
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05-19-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
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Originally Posted by MorningWood
bryce wont be in that class, Mine and josh's are 64mm compressor wheels Bryce can luckily race the lower class haha |
Yeah, we lose because of 2mm. |
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05-20-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
Oh shit, you guys prolly get to try to hang with cars like leasures 1g, and the other 42R cars huh?
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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05-20-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
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Originally Posted by goodhart
Oh shit, you guys prolly get to try to hang with cars like leasures 1g, and the other 42R cars huh?
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Yeah, that's why the jokes.
Why in RACECAR class?
Because STREETCAR.
Last edited by bramagedained; 05-20-2012 at 02:53 AM..
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05-20-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
because kool kids highway roll!
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05-20-2012
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Re: PG SA/U Roll Call Thread
I have no idea what class my car will fall under, but I should try to find some cool tires for the rear.
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