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Old 03-19-2007   #1
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Something you've probably already seen

Last week I was driving on the highway, pulled into a gas station, and the clutch felt kind of weird. After filling up and getting back onto the highway the clutch didn't want to engage making it really hard to put the clutch into gear. After hardly being able to drive it, I just pulled over and made a few phone calls. The clutch could be put into first when turned off and then with some force could go into the rest of the gears, but at every stop sign/light i had to turn off the car and put it into 1st/2nd. Right away my friend and I checked the clutch slave cylinder, it engaged properly and worked fine. Next we checked the clutch, we took off the plate that lets you see a little bit into the clutch. What we found was a piece of metal, it fell out as soon as we took off the plate, very skinny, like a razor blade thickness, and on that piece it said "Japan" on it. Now I am in the process of taking out the tranny, it will be out tonight but I was hoping someone could help me with what it might be. I have a 98 GST, Quaife LSD and ACt 2600 clutch. 127,000 on the tranny. My buddy says its not the tranny but he's not 100% sure. The clutch never felt like it was slipping or anything out of the ordinary, the clutch has probably 5000 - 8000 miles on it. thanks
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Old 03-19-2007   #2
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Re: Something you've probably already seen

Id say its the TOB(throw out bearing).
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Re: Something you've probably already seen

if its the throw out bearing then what do i have to do to fix it? kind of a noob question but tonight i'm just trying to figure out what i need to pick up and what i need to install. thanks
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Old 03-19-2007   #4
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Re: Something you've probably already seen

If it is the throwout bearing, you need to replace nothing other than that part alone. I'd be concerned about where that flake of metal came from though.
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Old 03-19-2007   #5
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Re: Something you've probably already seen

At least is says Japan on it. If you have the trans off, check endplay on the crank.
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Old 03-19-2007   #6
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It sounds like the another ACT disk fell apart, take the tranny out and there should be some nice broken ACT parts everywhere. South Bend clutch is what we sell/install.

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Re: Something you've probably already seen

Hey, we're pulling the tranny on a front drive 2g eclipse turbo. We pulled everything thing off to pull the tranny except the upper tranny mount. We don't have a cherry picker to support the motor from the top, all we have to work with are a 3 ton floor jack and a lot of jack stands. We're wondering if anyone knew of any methods to support the motor while we're pulling off the tranny with the tools available to us.
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2x4 and jack stand???
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Old 03-20-2007   #9
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Just let the motor hang untill you can get a jackstand/wood under that side of the oil pan, it should be fine for a little, or put the stand under there and then take the tranny off, either way.

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Re: Something you've probably already seen

Yeah mine ended up being a bent shift fork, TOB, and a clutch disk that the rubber inserts disentigrated. TOB was the last thing replaced. and that seemed to fix it.
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Old 03-20-2007   #12
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Re: Something you've probably already seen

was your clutch disengaging (if any) right off the floor even after bleeding it and all??? also, this is a newb question and a thead rob but I'm pulling my engine this weekend to do a swap and can i replace the tob then without removing the tranny?? thanks
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Old 03-22-2007   #13
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Re: Something you've probably already seen

Well everyone, my cherry has been popped, first tranny ever pulled. The TOB was destroyed, lol! We put it back together, took all 6 pieces just to see how it looked. Right now just taking a break, tranny is already put back in, just the small stuff now. A lot of hours just for a little TOB, funny but o well.
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Glad to hear it was something minor. 20 $ part FTW :P
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Re: Something you've probably already seen

Congrats! I also had many cherrys popped with my DSM Before I bought it the most extensive repair I did was replace plugs and wires. Bought a DSM and 6 months later I was pulling starters, then a tranny, now a motor..

These things are a trip on their own...
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yup.. i've gone from changing air filters and wiper blades to now pulling the engine/tranny for my 2.4 stroker and will do some tranny work (hopefully my problem was only the tob also) its a never ending adventure - 2nd engine since owning it with only 2800 miles on the first one, new suspension and alot more work...... wow
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