01-14-2010
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Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
I saw today on tuners, about graveyards regrind cams. They offer a 272/274/280. The 274 caught my interest, they're $290, and are an in between for the 272 and 280. Now, the old saying, "ya get what you pay for", comes to mind when I'm reading about these cams. What worries me, is the whole regrind thing. Are there any big negatives to using a regrind (I know they use shims to compensate)? I'm trying to figure out if they're even worth my time. If a regrind is terrible, then I'll save myself some reading.
Thanks ahead of time!
..I'm basically looking for pros and cons on regrinds, thought I'd clear it up.
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
They are the best cams ever. Buy all of them.
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At-Least-It's-White-Again
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
Cheap cams like brian crowers are even available... why not just pick a set of those up if you're lookin for cheap?
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
Cause I like to be different?...no but seriously I'm more or less just trying to learn. I plan on getting kelfords or hks in the spring. Just want to know if regrinds are at all worth looking into.
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
whats wrong with regrinds? I'd like to know.
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
Remember DKS regrinds? Junk. Move on please.
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
just say no
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kracka
Remember DKS regrinds? Junk. Move on please.
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tell that to Brad! he went 140mph in the 1320 with them
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
Great, he probably could have gone faster with something else. Don't be like Bushcur Just b/c something goes X et @ Y mph in the quarter-mile doesn't make it good.
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I agree with Kracka.
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
i still haven't heard any reasons why?
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kracka
Great, he probably could have gone faster with something else. Don't be like Bushcur Just b/c something goes X et @ Y mph in the quarter-mile doesn't make it good.
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Ask shane about them then. He had another customer with them who picked up 272ish power.
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
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Originally Posted by s1ngletracker
i still haven't heard any reasons why?
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X2, I can see you all hate them, but what's the reasoning?
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
Regrinds require shims under the lifters.
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
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Originally Posted by Constant_Project21
(I know they use shims to compensate)
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Got that. Are shims the reasoning behind all this hate? I also know from reading graveyards description, is that they machine off some of the bottom of the lobes, to change the profile of the cam.
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
Just give Delta a call, regrinds are less than $100 each after the cores are sent back; or you can get brand new ones for $300 a pair. They probably make the cams you're talking about anyways; supposedly they do the ffwd cams, ffwd just charges a lot more since so many people don't know about Delta. http://www.deltacam.com/
Last edited by jrohner; 01-15-2010 at 08:55 AM..
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
I say do what ya want here man. Brad had great success with them and I was just talking to Shane about these the other day and he said there have been a handful of cars to make good power on them also. I haven't heard anything bad about them, maybe someone can provide some reasoning behind all this hate ...
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
The DKS regrinds are actually pretty good. They make some good top end power, their "272" cams blow away most 272 style cams. I thought the same thing that since they were regrinds that they must suck. But after a few cars that came in with them made unusually good power and didn't have any wear or other problems, we started using them on customer cars who didn't want to spend big money on cams (BC cams are inexpensive too, but usually dissappointing) and one of our own DSMs.
Last edited by Shane@DBPerformance; 01-15-2010 at 10:41 AM..
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01-15-2010
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
If I was a baller I'd probably pick up a different cam, but for the price you can't really beat them.
I say pick a set up. I like my DKS regrinds and would rather spend money I saved on cams else where.
Also shimming isn't very hard. The DKS ones you just throw a little washer under the lifter, which is easy if you're already in there swapping cams.
Last edited by C3L1CA; 01-15-2010 at 08:13 PM..
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Re: Dsmgraveyard.com regrind cams?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrohner
Just give Delta a call, regrinds are less than $100 each after the cores are sent back; or you can get brand new ones for $300 a pair. They probably make the cams you're talking about anyways; supposedly they do the ffwd cams, ffwd just charges a lot more since so many people don't know about Delta. http://www.deltacam.com/
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Interesting company
And good to know
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