Fastest Street Car On Style

[scheides]

Originally Posted by niterydr

I weighed my "boat" 3780 race weight w/me in it.
I'd like to get that down to 3600lbs by the end of season, 3700lbs if I keep the a/c.

Trimspa, baby!

[Outlaw1]

This is the longest thread I've ever seen about two mid eleven second cars bickering.

[At-Least-It's-An-Evo]

Originally Posted by Outlaw1

This is the longest thread I've ever seen about two mid eleven second cars bickering.

^^^ wut he sayd.

[EvilEvo]

Originally Posted by niterydr

535.5awhp on 93 octane, 500ish at the track.

Dont want to be the only one to ask but lemme get this straight....

~500 AWHP at the track at 28psi
~535 AWHP on a dyno w/ pump gas at 22psi
~700 AWHP on a dyno w/ race gas at 32psi

So... how exactly does this work?

22 psi = 535
28 psi = 500
but 32 is the sweet spot (Well out of the range of the turbos) and it hits 700

Maybe you can clear this up for me

[CVD]

I have no insight on this particular case, but I usually dont claim my 1 time high hp # when im out on the street or at the track. I give a realistic guess based on the conditions and how the car feels. A high hp car with a finicky tune can certainly have quite a bit of swing when its not in its "perfect tuning environment."

[EvilEvo]

I agree with you there but there is still this part that doesnt work for me:

6 psi more boost from 22 loses 30+ HP but when raising the boost 4psi from 28 it gains over 200. I dont care how crappy the day or tune is... that doesnt happen

[TheBlizzard]

Over the years one thing has held true. When things don't go according to planned there is always excuses why. Some of them are legit and some are just bullshit.

[Shotgun!]

That 535 wasn't safe. It makes about 480awhp on pump at a safe tune. (And that's not so safe, IMHO)

The "500" on pump is a guess, shit was fucked up. The 703AWHP was a "best of" type run on the dyno, but it is a sound 690ish at 31psi.

[EvilEvo]

ok... he still said he was running 28 psi....

So at 28psi he makes ~480 but at 32 he makes ~700? I understand now

[EvilEvo]

Oh the edit explained it better....

At 28 psi is around 480-500 and at 31 it is a solid 690. I should think about running 3 more psi if I can gain 200 ponies from it!

I guess I dont need to say anymore.. You guys explained it enough, lol.

[Shotgun!]

Dear Lord...
The pump numbers are at a pumpable boost...22psi. Why is this so hard? A safe tune would use 20psi, at that boost we were seeing 485ish.

So all this bullshit is coming from the guy that "beat" a 125+mph Civic with his near stock Evo? I guess intercooler pipes blow off...

[JET]

I didn't catch that statement from Swanny about the 500 whp at the track, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I don't think that is what he actually meant. 600 whp would make a lot more sense.

[EclipseGST]

Originally Posted by Shotgun!

Dear Lord...
The pump numbers are at a pumpable boost...22psi. Why is this so hard?

So all this bullshit is coming from the guy that "beat" a 125+mph Civic with his near stock Evo?

Hey man... The proof is in the pudding! Video's prove all.

What did he run on race gas at the track?

So you're telling me he tuned it on race gas, emptied the tank, then put pump gas in it AGAIN after already running the car on pump gas at the track? That makes no sence.

[EvilEvo]

Originally Posted by Shotgun!

Dear Lord...
The pump numbers are at a pumpable boost...22psi. Why is this so hard?

So all this bullshit is coming from the guy that "beat" a 125+mph Civic with his near stock Evo?

Let me explain this better...

They said:

We made ~530 on pump gas at 22psi.

Then they said:

We made ~703 on c16 at 32psi.

Then they said:

At the track we were making ~500 at 28psi.

Explain this to me.. Ill even sum it up:

22psi = 530
28psi = 500 (30 horses LESS than at 22)
32psi = 703


Now about me "beating" a civic. Yes, I trap over 125mph. I had footage as well as his timeslip showing that his car was slower. I dont really want to get into that whole bs again. (And not sure how a GT35r is near stock)

[EvilEvo]

Originally Posted by niterydr

535.5awhp on 93 octane, 500ish at the track.
Well my shifter cables......

That is where he said 500 at the track.

[EvilEvo]

Originally Posted by niterydr

.....to keep the intercoolers cold, I was running 27.5-28psi MAX, 28 against carey.

And that is where he wrote 28 psi at the track.....

So do you understand NOW?

[CVD]

You are like a broken record of stupidity.

[Shotgun!]

Swanny is the absolute king of "crazy gorilla math" but this isn't too hard to follow.

[Super Bleeder!!]

evodude, are you going to come up to mnpls soon to beat the civic again?

[niterydr]

Evilevo-
We were talking about pump gas numbers. I was at the track on pump gas, around 22psi and made about 500awhp...ran 11.65@127
At the track this time it was 28psi, and I would estimate it around 640awhp...and ran the 11.54@131
Here is the breakdown on the car now:
The car makes a consistant 680-695awhp around 31-32psi right now. The intercooler temps play havoc on that. It has a best of 703awhp at 32.4psi and a worst of 663awhp at 31-31.5psi on db's dyno. I have yet to see what it does with nitrous cooling the intake charge and a bit more boost.

At the track it spun hard. Tell you what...the people complaining about these mid 11 second cars bickering, I invite you to come see my "mid 11 second car" on the highway. I do have excuses for the car, but in the end I am not saying its a 9 second car. I am saying its a mid 11 second car with problems and moves out plenty well on the highway, it should move out on the track next time there.

That is the point of racing, to find your problems, iron them out, and go faster. Not go to the track once or sit and benchrace because you have xxx mods and so and so went xx@xxxmph with those mods, so you MUST be that fast .