Street car build-up please help!! - Page 3

**Kracka** · 08-22-2006

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Originally Posted by niterydr

Performance and reliability and budget never go together. Most people can usually only afford 1, 2 costs real money, and 3 is never heard of.

Thats true, its very tough to accomplish all three, but a nice balance of the three is obtainable with a reasonable setup. Not everyone needs a 500 hp monster, some people are merely looking for a fairly affordable, quick, fun to drive street car that will start everyday with no issues. From what I can tell, this is what Aaron is looking for. If I'm wrong Aaron, please let me know.

niterydr · 08-22-2006

Yeah this is true and with that being said a mild turbo upgrade and a 2.0 is all he really needs. Something in the 250-300awhp range is plenty fast on the street, fun to drive, and if built properly, puts minimal stress on something very important...the wallet.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 08-22-2006

If you want it to last forever, rebuild it with stock parts to stock. Forged pistons aren't necessarily made for motors that you want to run for 100k.

niterydr · 08-22-2006

Shane is right, stock pistons and stock rods will go a long ways with a mild turbo upgrade.

**1ViciousGSX** · 08-22-2006

I hear a lot of theories, but nobody knows for sure.

Bottom line is this; a properly built and properly maintained 2.4L will last as long. It will take more boost & rpm to get the 2.0L to match it. So there's your trade-off to the higher piston speeds.

turbotalon1g · 08-22-2006

thx, Hughes hit the nail right on the head. I don't want a 500hp, just a real fun DD. I think a B16G (that i currently have) on a nice 2.0L should get the job done, if not a 50 trim will for sure, and this car should only see pump gas and 20psi and the most.
Thx all for the opinions/suggestions u have been really helpful.

**JET** · 08-22-2006

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

thx, Hughes hit the nail right on the head. I don't want a 500hp, just a real fun DD. I think a B16G (that i currently have) on a nice 2.0L should get the job done, if not a 50 trim will for sure, and this car should only see pump gas and 20psi and the most.
Thx all for the opinions/suggestions u have been really helpful.

I remember when I used to say that 4 years and 200hp ago

A//// Guy · 08-22-2006

Yea Jet is right.. that itch just gets too strong, but I should have known better and stuck with the 16G and maxed it out...

**Goat Blower** · 08-23-2006

Bah, I skipped right over the 16G and have still upgraded twice since then.

**Kracka** · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by M/// Guy

Yea Jet is right.. that itch just gets too strong, but I should have known better and stuck with the 16G and maxed it out...

Yup same here, I regret getting rid of my B16G, I should have stuck with that and maxed it out.

turbotalon1g · 08-23-2006

That is what i plan on doing, i am just gonna get a stock rebuild with 8:5.1 compression.

**Kracka** · 08-23-2006

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

stock rebuild with 8:5.1 compression.

2G pistons with 1G 6-bolt rods? Not a bad setup at all.

turbotalon1g · 08-23-2006

thats what i thought, I want this car more for DD and a little auto-x & road racing cause i really want to get into driving.

Shotgun! · 08-24-2006

THe DSM is NOT the platform for autoX or roadcourse! You are screwed, my friend!

AJ · 08-24-2006

As long as you don't replace parts that break with more used and beaten up parts it is just fine for some autoX or roadcourse action. Suspension, brakes, and other key components not directed to make big power are the ones you will need to focus on.

**Kracka** · 08-24-2006

With the proper setup, a DSM can turn well.

**JET** · 08-24-2006

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Originally Posted by Shotgun!

THe DSM is NOT the platform for autoX or roadcourse! You are screwed, my friend!

Tell that to DG who has placed well in nationals and to the Archer Brothers who won many SCCA championships in them.

turbotalon1g · 08-24-2006

I am not looking to RULE auto-x or nothing, i just like driving. And if its more difficult with a DSM then i can't wait for the challenge.
But yeah, stock rebuild with higher compression FTW!!!

92EvilTalon · 08-24-2006

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Originally Posted by JET

Tell that to DG who has placed well in nationals and to the Archer Brothers who won many SCCA championships in them.

I agree on the Archer Bros. I mean come on ... to make it into the booklet for the Talon that must be great. And win three Manufacturers Championship too. If you have not seen the Talon Booklet ... hit me up. I can zip it and send it out.

turbotalon1g · 08-24-2006

i would like to see it