Illegal immigrant debate

[Outlaw1]

Ok Bliz, FWIW....

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

1) Penalize employers you employ illegals. Make the penalties stiff enough so that they will feel it if they break the law.

I see what you mean. That's a good idea. Let's start with the desired result and work backwards. What are you trying to accomplish?

1) Stop the flow of wetbacks. How do we do that? Big wall, shooting them on sight, etc.?

2a) Manipulate the existing wetbacks into coming out of hiding, turn themselves in and then ship them back to point of origin. Is this what you're getting at? I don't really agree with this idea because of the time/money/effort involved with this option. We would spend sick amounts of money and possibly never make a dent in the problem. You're not gonna get them out of hiding by telling them you're about to bash them over the head with a club. Now if you offer them a way out, you might get results.

2b) Utilize existing wetbacks as a workforce. This will bring in tax dollars, cut medical funding, cut housing funding, cut education costs, etc, AND we would have a source for cheap manual labor. Cut ALL of their benefits. If I can't have free shit, they can't have free shit. They do not deserve to get anything free because they are beaners. Of course there are pros/cons that go along with this but it could be a step in the right direction.

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

2) Rule #1 will make it so the illegals cannot find work. In turn they will resort to crime. If they are caught commiting a crime and cannot prove they are a legal US citizen then their asses are shipped back to Mexico right away.

This is a great idea until you, or someone you know, are a victim of one of these crimes. What if one of these people killed one of your family members? I don't think I'm willing to pay that kinda price just to get a handle on some wets. What about all the nonviolent wetbacks that will stay under your radar forever? We know why they're here, we know what they want, let's offer it to them and bring them out of hiding.

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

3) Let a certain number of Mexicans into the US each year. On the premace that they can speak fluent english and can write the english language as well.

If you let the educated wetbacks into this country they will eventually take on more and more important roles. The ignorant are slaves to themselves.

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

4) Make them leave their Mexicans flags at the border. US should not tolerate another countries flag being displayed on American soil. If this is observed, immidiate deportation. Like I have said many times, if they are so proud of their fucking country then they can go back there. If you want to be American and live like Americans then you will fly the American flag.

This is not the time to fly someone else's flag on US soil. At this time more than any other we need to stand united as a unified country. We're in this crap together and we need to stick together. We need to stop worrying about all the problems in other countries and worry about our own problems. Mexico can kiss my ass.

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

5) Take the illegals that are in our prison systems and deport them. They will have their freedom in their own country never to return to the US legally.

Here's the problem... They weren't here legally in the first place. Laws are only effective if people will observe them. We can deport them and they will come right back because Mexico sure as hell doesn't give a crap about what they did on US soil. If you get caught committing a crime on US soil, you belong to the US. Do you think Mexico would deport a US citizen if you were caught stealing in Mexico? Dead gringo.

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

6) Make it required for them to get a job within 90 days of being in the US. If they do not find a job then they are sent to the back of the line. Pre-screening would help a lot with placement of immigrants. Find the ones that have a future and talents and that are intelligent. Not the ones that will be riding around in a piece of shit Chevy truck with two of their buddies, displaying their Mexican Flag sticker in the back window while riding on some 14X10 Kragar rims.

Don't let any of them in. Utilize the wets that are already here. We would have to patrol the borders VERY hard to get them to stop coming. Some sort of landmines or huge wall is gonna be neccessary. Who is gonna build the wall? USE THE WETBACKS!

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

I could go on and on.

Me too.

[FattyBoomBatty]

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

Fatty I will answer you when you can alteast display that you made it through the third grade. Then you can "axe" me all the questions you want. And maybe then the rest of my "peeps" will listen to you also. We are all from "Minnsota" can't we just get along. And "3st" your about as liberal as George Bush, "metephorically" speaking of course. Reading your post was like scrubbing my brain with fucking bleech. You should get a job as a politician, most of them cannot spell or think logically either.

ok, i edited to save a little face or whatever. basically, don't make fun of me on the internet, it's pointless. and so is arguing, i should have known that.

SORRY!!

[TheBlizzard]

Gotta love Amercians. If I wasn't so damn busy I would join the rest of the men that are volunteering to patrol the borders of Mexico to keep illegals out. If the government won't fucking do anything leave it up to Amercian people to keep those fuckers out.

They are now patroling over 800 miles of the border in areas where it was the most common for them to cross over. If they see anything out of the ordinary they just make a call on the radio and they are right there.

[unreal808]

We need a big wall!

[sleepy2lazy]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060402/...BhBHNlYwM5NjQ-

O.o

[Jana]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/....ap/index.html

By far, here's the best quote (and what most of us have said in this thread):

In Salt Lake City, Utah, Jerry Owens, 59, a Navy veteran from Midway wearing a blue Minuteman T-shirt and camouflage pants, held a yellow "Don't Tread on Me" flag.

"I think it's real sad because these people are really saying it's OK to be illegal aliens," Owens said. "What Americans are saying is 'Yes, come here. But come here legally.' And I think that's the big problem."

[stormbird]

Just heard somthing today on the radio that seems to make sense.


The companies like illegals because they work for cheap.

If they become "citizens" we have to pay them minimum wage.

So where's the benefit to America for making them legal immigrants? We're better off telling them to take a hike and pay our own people minimum wage and keep all this money in the country.