Glenn Bitch and Fat Grey. - Page 2

Matt D. · 10-07-2010

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

On a brighter note, the son of the father, walked into the fire department and punched out the Chief. I would have done the same :Applaud:

You clearly did not read the link I posted. The home owner himself punched the fire chief. He failed at taking care of business to protect his property and it's the fire chief's fault? Stay classy, Tom.

A//// Guy · 10-07-2010

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

You clearly did not read the link I posted. The home owner himself punched the fire chief. He failed at taking care of business to protect his property and it's the fire chief's fault? Stay classy, Tom.

Agreed, what the Fawk. Honestly where is the logic??

How simple does this get? If you dont pay a fee that PROTECTS your house, then they wont protect your house. Clearly so simple, yet for Tom it isnt?

I hope the father was then arrested for assault.

**Kracka** · 10-07-2010

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Its because NORMAL states, base it on a county tax. My parents are the same way, itasca county takes the tax which is given to Big Forks fire department. Why this state is different i have no idea.

So what if it's different? This state/county/city is setup differently and because of it they are able to pay for it in another form. Frankly, the $75 rural fee is probably cheaper for them than if they had it included in their property taxes! I like this setup because it gives people a CHOICE in what they'd like their dollars to fund; not sure about you but I'd LOVE to have that choice when paying my taxes/fees/dues.

Matt D. · 10-07-2010

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

My main balk on this thread is not so much that a $x00,000 house was destroyed by a $75 fee (which is fucked up when they could have just charged the owner a penalty instead) , but because of Glenn Beck and Pat Greys attitude towards the situation, making fun, mocking and picking on this family because of their situation.

balk - verb: To stop short and refuse to proceed.

You used the wrong word and aren't doing a very good job of balking. Unless you meant the noun, which then you still aren't doing a very good job of.

**goodhart** · 10-07-2010

I'll have to ask my parents how their setup works. I would assume everyone with the same zip code would pay that city's taxes.

**Kracka** · 10-07-2010

I don't get this "I fucked up but it's still everyone else's fault but my own" mentality that people live with.

I pay for car insurance.
I pay for home owner's insurance.
I have insurance on Janelle's jewelery.
I used to carry renter's insurance.
I pay my homeowner's association dues.

Life isn't hard, but protection does cost money, this is a fact of life.

**goodhart** · 10-07-2010

I pay insurance on everything I have, etc. BUT... I have a feeling if this happened to one of us, or someone we know/family member, the people saying, "burn baby burn!! No $75?? Bust out the weenies and marshmellows!!" MAY, just MAY be singing a different tune. Yes they didn't pay the $75. Then send them a bill, fine them, whatever.

If they went out to the house, then watched it burn? That would be just a big of waste of money as putting it out. As long as they showed up, every one of the firefighters got paid for their time. My Father-In-Law is a retired Fire Chief in Princeton, I should ask him how they would have handled such a situation.

Matt D. · 10-07-2010

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Originally Posted by goodhart

If they went out to the house, then watched it burn? That would be just a big of waste of money as putting it out.

Wrong. They went to put out the fire that had spread to a neighboring property because they paid their fee. It's not like they went to watch this house burn and make s'mores.

A//// Guy · 10-07-2010

^ Wed be more sympathetic because we know them, but id still say wtf for not just paying the 75 dollars in the first place.

slowbubblecar · 10-07-2010

The insurance analogy fails because buying insurance doesn't mean an event won't happen.

From what I read, it sounds like the fire department could have gotten there in time to put out the fire before it got to the trailer home. What would you guys think if someone bought the home after the fee was assessed and the prior owner didn't pay it? Would you guys think the same thing? Did you guys inquire about this before getting your home???

**Kracka** · 10-08-2010

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Originally Posted by goodhart

I pay insurance on everything I have, etc. BUT... I have a feeling if this happened to one of us, or someone we know/family member, the people saying, "burn baby burn!! No $75?? Bust out the weenies and marshmellows!!" MAY, just MAY be singing a different tune.

It's called personal responsibility. Plain and simple. Cheap protection was offered to the home owner at least twice (letter and phone call) but he continued to deny coverage. I'm still at a loss as to why he, or anyone, would think the fire dept would come to his rescue when he blatantly denied to pay the small fee. Everyone wants something for nothing and I'm glad the fire dept stood it's ground with the mayor backing their play. Call me heartless if you want, but I'm sick of the taxpayers having to come to the rescue of everyone all the time. Again, it's time people to start taking personal responsibility and personal accountability for their life and their actions.

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Originally Posted by slowbubblecar

Did you guys inquire about this before getting your home???

I live within city limits and all property taxes and association dues are current; I did check.

Matt D. · 10-08-2010

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Originally Posted by slowbubblecar

The insurance analogy fails because buying insurance doesn't mean an event won't happen.

It doesn't mean an event will happen either.

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Originally Posted by slowbubblecar

From what I read, it sounds like the fire department could have gotten there in time to put out the fire before it got to the trailer home.

DO YOU PEOPLE READ ALL OF THE INFO??? The fire department was there in time, they were next door saving the neighbors house who paid the $75 fee. Because this guy chose not to pay it the fire department's hands were tied and could not put the fire out because of the rules in place.

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Originally Posted by slowbubblecar

What would you guys think if someone bought the home after the fee was assessed and the prior owner didn't pay it? Would you guys think the same thing? Did you guys inquire about this before getting your home???

Then tough shit. It's called due diligence. If you don't do your fair share and you get screwed over on something then it's your fault, plain and simple. Three words: COVER YOUR ASS.

The amount of selective listening/reading/reasoning by the people defending this guy and his fuck up is appalling. No wonder this country is going to the shitter.

slowbubblecar · 10-12-2010

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

DO YOU PEOPLE READ ALL OF THE INFO??? The fire department was there in time, they were next door saving the neighbors house who paid the $75 fee. Because this guy chose not to pay it the fire department's hands were tied and could not put the fire out because of the rules in place.

The amount of selective listening/reading/reasoning by the people defending this guy and his fuck up is appalling. No wonder this country is going to the shitter.

http://www.theconstitutional.org/201...-on%C2%A0fire/

Based on the article I read, it looked like they had a chance to put out the fire before it even got to the person's home. You must not know that there are different sources for information...

I don't think people are defending the person as much as they are saying it is rediculous that they wouldn't try to PREVENT thousands of dollars in damage because of a $75 fee. The issue is also that people don't seem to care and are making fun of the situation.

**Kracka** · 10-13-2010

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Originally Posted by slowbubblecar

I don't think people are defending the person as much as they are saying it is rediculous that they wouldn't try to PREVENT thousands of dollars in damage because of a $75 fee. The issue is also that people don't seem to care and are making fun of the situation.

If they put out the fire for someone who didn't pay the rural service fee what incentive would anyone else have to pay the $75 fee next year then? All it takes is one time and the masses will follow suit and expect to be covered for free.

Why should we care? He made a choice and now has to face the consequence. Not to mention the he assaulted the fire chief. This guy deserves our sympathy why?

Matt D. · 10-13-2010

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Originally Posted by slowbubblecar

Based on the article I read, it looked like they had a chance to put out the fire before it even got to the person's home. You must not know that there are different sources for information...

Dude, you just repeated what I said.

MATCHBX · 10-07-2010

More burden on other tax payers for time and money invested in getting a payment from someone that could've taken some personal responsibility himself and paid the assessment in the first place.

**Halon** · 10-07-2010

I agree that those guys going live on the radio and rubbing salt in their wounds probably wasn't the classiest thing.

But, as others have said. The guy failed to pay his dues for this protection. You can't just pick and choose when you want to pay for protection. It's an overall very unfortunate situation. Life isn't fair sometimes, I feel bad that they are having to go through this. Just as bad as I'd feel for someone who lost a house from a flood and never paid for flood insurance. But in the end, it is what it is. He opted to not pay the dues for that protection, and they didn't offer it.

But I personally don't think it helps anyone by rubbing it in on a radio show.

**Goat Blower** · 10-08-2010

30 million listeners can't be wrong.

Compare that to the 57 people that actually read the puffington host.

2zzgtte · 10-08-2010

I love Glenn Beck Pat and Stew. They're awesome!

Here is the story for the people who have not read it yet

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot...logical-debate

This is actual quote from him:

"I hadn't paid my $75 and that's what they want, $75, and they don't care how much it burned down," Gene Cranick told WPSD, an NBC affiliate in Kentucky. "I thought they'd come out and put it out, even if you hadn't paid your $75, but I was wrong."

mdost03 · 10-08-2010

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Originally Posted by 2zzgtte

This is actual quote from him:

"I hadn't paid my $75 and that's what they want, $75, and they don't care how much it burned down," Gene Cranick told WPSD, an NBC affiliate in Kentucky. "I thought they'd come out and put it out, even if you hadn't paid your $75, but I was wrong."

Wow, people these days.

Call me heartless as well, but I agree with everything Kracka, Matt D, etc. are saying. It is the guy's own fault that the fire dept. didn't do anything to save his house. Blame is all on him. What is $75 a year for a home owner anyways?? It was cheap protection and he didn't pay it and suffered the consequences. Case closed.