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Old 02-03-2009   #21
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

Looks like a good find.
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Old 02-03-2009   #22
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

WOW nice snag!! i like it!
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Old 02-03-2009   #23
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Dude, that is an awesome find!
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

Very nice! I loved my starion, that was my first turbo Mitsu.
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Nice lookin ride!
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Old 02-04-2009   #26
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Looks clean!

Man that interior is so 80s. lol
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

As far as vac lines, If you need some help, I'm game, I also want to see it,
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Old 02-04-2009   #28
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

Nice! I've always liked these cars, and almost got one a couple years ago, but picked up my DSM instead.
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

Don't change ECUs, the 86s had the best ones.
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Old 02-04-2009   #30
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

Reid, did you mention something about how the '86 ECU doesn't need the MAS or something weird like that?
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

Tis true, they have a basic speed density setup for "limp home mode" which means unplug the mass and let er buck. Then tune accordingly.
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Word. Also they have a better injector setup. They fire their injectors; 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2. The 83-85 and 87-89 fire; 1, 1, 1, 1, 12, 12, 12 - like a carb. So the 86 ECU is half way to being MPI. You seem to have what's needed to go almost all the way.
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Why did they change back for 87-89?
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

Well, that information is true, but somewhat misleading. The 86 ecu doesn't like it when you raise the boost past 13 or 14 psi, if you can even get there. Yes, you can take out the mass air sensor in SOME of the 86's. some cars don't care and might run better, others might run worse. There is a way to use a 1G mass air sensor with the 86 setup.

The 87-89 ecu, when used in conjunction with a 1G mass air sensor or a 1G maf translator allows for very high boost with no fuel cut (much higher than you could ever get with a 12a or 14g). The 86 does have a map sensor, but no AIT sensor. You can try unplugging the mass air sensor, but I'd wait till you have a wideband installed. Your stock boost gauge won't work either I bet.

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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

Well, there already is no mas on my set up, its just a filter, and it did have a FCD installed but thats been taken out for some reason. The factory boost guage does work, but I dont trust it like a good DSM boy. I read about that 1g MAS set up and it sounds good, because if you can get a 1g mas to work, you should be able to get a 2g, or 3g mas to hook Id imagine. But I dont have the money yet to figure that out yet. Besides, Im still in the process of deciding if I wanna do a 2.4/3 swap into this beast and kick it that way. and just save the other two motors as back ups.
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

I'd rock the g54 till it blows, then throw in a 4g setup and sell the other g54
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

Hmmmm, Im going to disagree with you there... Id rather have 3 engines, and blow up a 4g63/4 first before I blew up my stock motors.
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

Didn't it come with a race built engine already? Why scrap that?
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Re: A real mans DSM :D, Introducing, the Starion

The rebuilt engine is already out of the car, and the g54 set up is still semi ghey because of the FI system. And 4g6x's have alot better mod support.
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LS1! Fun cars, but they really need bigger turbo's to be a lot of fun.
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