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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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forged 4130 chrome moly is forged steel 
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Don't get lippy when you don't know what you are talking about. Yes 4130 is steel, but all steel is not 4130. Most OEM forged rods are 51 series low carbon steel. 4130 and 4330 are high carbon and are superior to it.
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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Don't get lippy when you don't know what you are talking about. Yes 4130 is steel, but all steel is not 4130. Most OEM forged rods are 51 series low carbon steel. 4130 and 4330 are high carbon and are superior to it.
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dude, are you on your rag?
I know full well that there are different alloys of steel, it was a simple smart ass comment.
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If you know Mary Clifford, Ph,.D. Associate Professor of Criminal Justice in St. Cloud State University. Then your well aware of who she is.
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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dude, are you on your rag?
I know full well that there are different alloys of steel, it was a simple stupid ass comment.
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Fixed that for ya
I was just busting your balls! 
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
I feel no love here.
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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I feel no love here.
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You should hit the bars.
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02-18-2008
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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Fixed that for ya
I was just busting your balls! 
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The anger demons were back in force tonight, but I'm ok now 
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If you know Mary Clifford, Ph,.D. Associate Professor of Criminal Justice in St. Cloud State University. Then your well aware of who she is.
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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The anger demons were back in force tonight, but I'm ok now 
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dave u need to
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
I like parts of the 4b11 engine, but I think they could have done a few things different. The 4b11 may not have the revs that the 4g63 could produce.
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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I like parts of the 4b11 engine, but I think they could have done a few things different. The 4b11 may not have the revs that the 4g63 could produce.
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That makes absolutely no sense. The 4b11 is a square engine, so it is built to rev. That is the whole point of the shorter stroke.
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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That makes absolutely no sense. The 4b11 is a square engine, so it is built to rev. That is the whole point of the shorter stroke.
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You see those rods!!! Look at the difference in diameter, you'll spin a bearing from starving those rod bearings of oil. yeah it may rev, but do you like your engine. Just like any engine, sure it will rev high, but will it LAST!
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
2.0 dsms and evos w/ 4G63's consistantly rev very high, 8k stock motor and 10k on built motors. I would go higher with my evo but the stock rod bolts tend to stretch at high rpm/torque. My power peaks around 7k anyways, so no need to go much past 7600 (stock rev limit).
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02-19-2008
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
Stock rev limit is 7840 on the IX's according to all the ROM's I have.
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02-19-2008
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
It is 7600 in a stock IX rom.
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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It is 7600 in a stock IX rom.
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Thats really strange. I thought it was too (and know it is on some) but a few days ago I was thinking about this and check a few stock rom's that I have gotten from other local IX's and they were at 7800 I think. Who knows, I am probably nuts, but I will check again tonight.
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
I just had someone check their STOCK Evo IX ROM and the rev limiter is at 7804.
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
I have stock IX roms that I have pulled out of cars and they say 7606.
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
I smell conspiracy!
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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I smell conspiracy!
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No doubt this is strange, I verified 7804 on 3 stock IX ROM's (2 GSR, 1 MR).
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Re: 4B11T engine pics - the guts!
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Originally Posted by Dizmm
You see those rods!!! Look at the difference in diameter, you'll spin a bearing from starving those rod bearings of oil. yeah it may rev, but do you like your engine. Just like any engine, sure it will rev high, but will it LAST!
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Could you please elaborate? you think larger diameter (rod bearings I'm assuming, you didn't say) = less durability? 
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