Street car build-up please help!! - Page 2

**1ViciousGSX** · 08-19-2006

2.4L
FP3052
HKS 272/272

Enough said

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 08-19-2006

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Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!!

mk4 supras have getrags, so they cant all be bad.

Yea, they never ever break in Supras either and the faster Supra guys never swap them out for Powerglides or TH400s.

Super Bleeder!! · 08-19-2006

ryan woon goes pretty fast on his

but heck, even shep has a ford 9" now. american driveline ftw?

Hoffer00 · 08-21-2006

What about a 2.3. I thought those were supposed to be really good power handlers.

niterydr · 08-21-2006

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Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!!

ryan woon goes pretty fast on his

but heck, even shep has a ford 9" now. american driveline ftw?

Yeah I should just go 9", it's the in thing

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Black97civic · 08-21-2006

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Originally Posted by niterydr

Yeah I should just go 9", it's the in thing

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Yeah, swanny I am gonna have to agree with you, powerglide and a ford 9" rear end FTW.

Shotgun! · 08-21-2006

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Originally Posted by Black97civic

Yeah, swanny I am gonna have to agree with you, powerglide and a ford 9" rear end FTW.

You are forgeting the VPC. You have to have a VPC with your FoMoCo 9" and GM-PG

turbotalon1g · 08-21-2006

well so far, its looks like 2.0L, and B16G, if i need more then a 50 trim. Now the question is stock internals or aftermarket for insurance?

**Kracka** · 08-22-2006

Stock internals will be cheaper and have better longitivity if you are doing a 2.0L with a B16G aslong as you keep a safe tune and aren't trying to max things out.

**scheides** · 08-22-2006

Stock internals are dandy, you won't need to upgrade until you're making more than 500whp consistantly.

Hoffer00 · 08-22-2006

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Originally Posted by Hoffer00

What about a 2.3. I thought those were supposed to be really good power handlers.

IS the 2.3 stroker a good engine. or is the 2.4L better.
do they both fit AWD

I don't mean to highjack the thread

**scheides** · 08-22-2006

Theoretically, they cannot handle as much RPM as a 2.0 motor can, because the rods are longer and the crank is bigger (basically). They can make a TON of power though, and yes, they'll all fit in an AWD car b/c they are all basically the same on the outside!

Lots and lots of info on this around the net and on this site, do some searching for more research.

Hoffer00 · 08-22-2006

thanks for not butching me

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 08-22-2006

There is about .5l displacement difference between the 2.3l and 2.4l motors, depending on what you do for overbore. They both use the same 100mm crank. The difference is in bore size, if you use the 2.0l block, then you get a little less displacement, unless you went to a huge overbore. 2.0l blocks have oil squirters stock, you can have oil squirters put into the the 2.4l blocks also though. To run the long stroke in teh shorter deck 2.0l block, you often end up with the oil control ring of the piston partially cutting into the wrist pin area. Both motors suffer from the same high piston speeds and poor rod ratio due to the crank.

**1ViciousGSX** · 08-22-2006

If you are wanting to stay stock or low budget on the internals, build the 1g 2.0L. But if you are going to buy pistons, then do the 2.4L. Go for the larger displacement and torque? It cost the same unless you are going all out. Torque is what moves a car. Keep the rpm under 7500 and it will live just as well as a 2.0L and be more fun to drive.

**Kracka** · 08-22-2006

...except piston speed is a lot higher in the 2.4L compared to the 2.0L so that will negatively effect engine life.

niterydr · 08-22-2006

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Originally Posted by S2kracka

...except piston speed is a lot higher in the 2.4L compared to the 2.0L so that will negatively effect engine life.

True but the differences at 7500 won't be noticed until very high mileage, who actually keeps their dsm running for 50+k?

**Kracka** · 08-22-2006

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Originally Posted by niterydr

True but the differences at 7500 won't be noticed until very high mileage, who actually keeps their dsm running for 50+k?

My engine lasted until 162k, had I decided to rebuild it instead of parting it out I would have expected the same. Rembember guys, Aaron wants this car to be a reliable DD and with the driving a lot of us seem to do 50k miles only seems to be about 2 years worth.

niterydr · 08-22-2006

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Originally Posted by S2kracka

My engine lasted until 162k, had I decided to rebuild it instead of parting it out I would have expected the same. Rembember guys, Aaron wants this car to be a reliable DD and with the driving a lot of us seem to do 50k miles only seems to be about 2 years worth.

I would say we could easily build a forged motor that will get close to 100k on it for rounds.

Performance and reliability and budget never go together. Most people can usually only afford 1, 2 costs real money, and 3 is never heard of.

Boost and horsepower also negativly effect engine life as well

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At-Least-It's-An-Evo · 08-22-2006

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Originally Posted by niterydr

True but the differences at 7500 won't be noticed until very high mileage, who actually keeps their dsm running for 50+k?

Exactly. It shouldn't even be the engine that you'd have to worry about ageing. It's the rest of the car. It'll fall apart within the next few years anyways before the engine goes.