Illegal immigrant debate - Page 2

ABV · 03-29-2006

I should clarify that I don't have anything against imigration as long as it's done legally.

**Kracka** · 03-29-2006

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Originally Posted by Mark

I should clarify that I don't have anything against imigration as long as it's done legally.

Agreed, same here. There are many legal immigrants who have done great things for not only themselves and their families, but also this country and society.

Onefast99gsx · 03-29-2006

I agree too. I have nothing wrong with those who go through the proper channels of becoming an American. Freedom isn't free.

sleepy2lazy · 03-29-2006

B/c everyone is gone negative, let me try and shed a little good light.

For example, England and Japan is starting to have trouble in their working industry.
Just figure this, Everyone is going to school. Everyone is getting their bachelors, masters, and doctorate. Everyone will become overqualified for the low-waged and cheap jobs. What will happen to the economy?
If you got your masters, would you want to be working $6-15 an hour? Plus the fact that there are millions more just like you with their masters.

awd-drifter · 03-29-2006

i wonder if this immigration thing will help in the long run for us. I dont really care, its just that we shouldnt be dealing with other's issues if it aint our problem...although we are just in Iraq, just trying to sort things out...

stormbird · 03-29-2006

Just try going to the ER some night here in Arizona and you'll feel our pain. When you're there and you have to pay for your treatment you get pissed when you wait in line behind illegals getting it for free.

Also, you shouldn't be able to protest shit if you're not a legal citizen.

It's really bad for the people here legally. My friend from Canada(a nurse) got pulled over for 91 in a 65 and was damn lucky she didn't get deported(plead down). When the cops pull over illegals they let them go.

Support the militia on the border and don't believe what the liberal media says about them. They aren't nuts, they're just people doing their country's job.

**Kracka** · 03-29-2006

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Originally Posted by stormbird

Support the militia on the border and don't believe what the liberal media says about them. They aren't nuts, they're just people doing their country's job.

Yup.

FattyBoomBatty · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

Yeah they are hard workers, I agree and do have a place in society. But protesting and this bullshit is just crazy. Here is how stupid they are, yeah lets protest and bring more attention to ourselves when there is already millions of us here illegally. I could go on and on. I am sure some of you whiny fucking liberals will get pissed at what I am saying but its my opinion.

I saw this quoted in some jerbronie's signature! I just want to axe you a couple Q's. What would you do if they said, "minnsotans can NEVER leave that state for the rest of their lives, no vacation, no job transplant, no nothing."

you'd protest, and continue to leave the state every once and a while for whatever. That is not a metephor for border jumping illegally, what it IS a metaphor for is protesting when you don't get your way or a group of your peeps is getting punished or repressed for no reason. get it?

the second thing is: where do you think all the people in the "majority" came from? overseas! their grandparents or great grandparents or whatever came here for a better life. immigration. it's not that bad of a deal!!

3st: mexicans are NOT towel heads.

**Kracka** · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty

a group of your peeps is getting punished or repressed for no reason. get it?

Besides for the fact 20% of our prison polulation are illegal immigrants who are convicted felons.

TheBlizzard · 03-31-2006

Fatty I will answer you when you can alteast display that you made it through the third grade. Then you can "axe" me all the questions you want. And maybe then the rest of my "peeps" will listen to you also. We are all from "Minnsota" can't we just get along. And "3st" your about as liberal as George Bush, "metephorically" speaking of course. Reading your post was like scrubbing my brain with fucking bleech. You should get a job as a politician, most of them cannot spell or think logically either.

**JET** · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty

I saw this quoted in some jerbronie's signature! I just want to axe you a couple Q's. What would you do if they said, "minnsotans can NEVER leave that state for the rest of their lives, no vacation, no job transplant, no nothing."

That is one of the worst analogies I have ever seen! We are US citizens, they are not. It is like us jumping the border and going to Canada, if you want to make an analogy. Then while it canada we want to live there and work without being a citizen. We wouldn't be that dumb, we would get the proper paperwork to legally go over the border.

cudvig · 03-31-2006

The reason it is in my profile, is I knew someone would bitch about it.

My master plan worked! HAHAHAHA

-Colin

Outlaw1 · 03-31-2006

I know the majority of the crowd thinks everyone should drive up/down the borders and just shoot the people you see crossing the border illegaly. Smart. There's only MILLIONS of people to shoot and you'd have to go door to door all over the US to kill the rest of them. If that's the solution, WTF are you waiting for?

There is no way you will kill or deport every wetback in the US. They are here and they are here to stay. Utilize them as a resource or waste billions coping with it.

As far as I can see, I'm the only person that offered any kind of reasonable solution. Now would anyone else like to take a stab at a solution, or would everyone like to come up with more stupid ideas?

CVD · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

Fatty I will answer you when you can alteast display that you made it through the third grade. Then you can "axe" me all the questions you want. And maybe then the rest of my "peeps" will listen to you also. We are all from "Minnsota" can't we just get along. And "3st" your about as liberal as George Bush, "metephorically" speaking of course. Reading your post was like scrubbing my brain with fucking bleech. You should get a job as a politician, most of them cannot spell or think logically either.

This post made my day.

And yes, immigration is fucking fantastic...when its done legally. If we wanted to let more people in legally, guess what? WE WOULD. But we dont, mostly because of all the border jumping assholes. I really believe that they need to stop that shit before doing ANYTHING else on immigration. After that we can still let in plenty of immigrants, but then we get to decide who gets in and how many we can support. Imagine that, controlling our own borders and immigration. What a wonderful idea.

**Kracka** · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by CVD

Imagine that, controlling our own borders and immigration. What a wonderful idea.

We need to take this straight to the top because unlike most their knutty ideas this may actually work! I'm calling the White House!

TheBlizzard · 03-31-2006

1) Penalize employers you employ illegals. Make the penalties stiff enough so that they will feel it if they break the law.

2) Rule #1 will make it so the illegals cannot find work. In turn they will resort to crime. If they are caught commiting a crime and cannot prove they are a legal US citizen then their asses are shipped back to Mexico right away.

3) Let a certain number of Mexicans into the US each year. On the premace that they can speak fluent english and can write the english language as well.

4) Make them leave their Mexicans flags at the border. US should not tolerate another countries flag being displayed on American soil. If this is observed, immidiate deportation. Like I have said many times, if they are so proud of their fucking country then they can go back there. If you want to be American and live like Americans then you will fly the American flag.

5) Take the illegals that are in our prison systems and deport them. They will have their freedom in their own country never to return to the US legally.

6) Make it required for them to get a job within 90 days of being in the US. If they do not find a job then they are sent to the back of the line. Pre-screening would help a lot with placement of immigrants. Find the ones that have a future and talents and that are intelligent. Not the ones that will be riding around in a piece of shit Chevy truck with two of their buddies, displaying their Mexican Flag sticker in the back window while riding on some 14X10 Kragar rims.

I could go on and on.

Oh yeah and I want another Berlin wall so to speak. I know its not the same since the Berlin wall divided one country into two sides but you get the point. A huge wall that nobody can cross. The cost of the wall would be pennies compared to the money they suck out of the country each year. Back in the day nobody cared about them jumping the fence so to speak. Because they were making money and so were we. Well now that there is 20 million of them here, then suddenly we are like "oh fuck, what do we do now"? If somebody would have had some balls back in the early 90s we wouldn't be talking about this right now.

Jacek · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by Jed

Deportation costs too much money, maybe we can find a bullet-I mean better solution.

send them to iraq.

AJ · 03-31-2006

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/...cun/index.html

Outlaw1 · 03-31-2006

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Originally Posted by DSMStyle

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/...cun/index.html

That's very odd that I had a similar idea. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing. On another note, imagine how much revenue would be generated by the taxed income of those wetbacks. Currently wetbacks just use a fake SSN and claim a bunch of dependants so they won't have to pay much taxes. We have to figure out how to convert their resources into dollars for the US. Then we can take those dollars and use them to build a HUGE electrically charged wall along the border.

It looks like we're on the right track.

Febo · 03-31-2006

I realized I cant read anything that man says. He just makes me sad to be American sometimes... ::deep breath:: Alls I got out of that was, lets effe the American workforce over some more. Not only will I allow manufacturing jobs to get moved out of country, but now lets let it be legal to pay immigrants 6.15 an hour cuz they will be happy for that low pay, and then expect every legal American to suck it up and take the same pay, or just not work. Then there is his comment about the terrorism thing, if hes so worried about them flooding into this country through Mexico, then why not shut down the border to Mexico, why even keep it open. He is willing to throw trillions of dollars at a foreign nation, but when it comes down to something that makes sense, I bet we wont even see a billion thrown at it. Gah, and we still have 2 more years of this man leading this country.

Edit (keeping myself more on track): I am personally not against immigration, its what made this country what it is. Its when people illegally come into the country, and then start to leech this community, thats when I say enough is enough. I dont care if its Mexicans, Canadians, Irishmen, Japanese, Brtions, if they are flooding in illegally, we need to do something to stop em.