12-04-2014
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Re: March for health care!
http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/26/pf/g...ance_top_tips/
Heres everything i just said, same holds true today as it did back in 2009.
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12-04-2014
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: March for health care!
LOL @ cost-free. Just because insurance doesn't charge you a deductible doesn't mean there isn't a cost associated with it.
Not to mention, that is incorrect. I had two plans available this year during open enrollment, one with $0 deductible (in-network) preventative care, and the other with $35 deductible (in-network) preventative care.
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I agree with Kracka.
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12-04-2014
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: March for health care!
Talk to any health insurance broker and they'll tell you the earfuls they're getting from their clients on these extreme increases.
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I agree with Kracka.
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12-04-2014
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: March for health care!
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Talk to any health insurance broker and they'll tell you the earfuls they're getting from their clients on these extreme increases.
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Correct. Because people are getting free/subsidized healthcare, someone has to pay for it, its not "free", so we all pay for it.
I am not sure where the confusion is on this.
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12-04-2014
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Re: March for health care!
I hope all you guys are taking full advantage and getting your papsmears and pregnancy checks done that you are forced to pay for with your coverage now.
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12-05-2014
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aka Goodbye
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Re: March for health care!
I've had three abortions this week! It's free!
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12-15-2014
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Re: March for health care!
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
I've had three abortions this week! It's free!
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Laughed hard when I read this, lol.
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12-05-2014
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immune from paybans
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Re: March for health care!
Does that fall under preventative care?
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12-05-2014
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: March for health care!
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Originally Posted by asshanson
Does that fall under preventative care?
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I'd say yes.
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12-16-2014
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: March for health care!
My healthcare costs have gone up 20% a week and my deductible doubled. It was nice that i had saved my original deductible via my HSA, but now i have to save more. The system that was in place originally worked just fine.
I have a hard time understanding why people defend this guys actions. Especially now that he has been in office for as long as he has.
The next great topic will be his immigration bill.
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12-16-2014
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Re: March for health care!
All that needed to happen with the old system was to allow competition across state lines and TORT Reform. Remember that argument? Then healthcare cost would have dropped. And that's what those mean old republicans wanted, not Obamacare.
But now due to all the dumbasses who wanted to buy into the "insure the uninsured" bull shit, Obamacare has removed all possibility of competition and left the price control to the same bureaucrats and insurance companies that were jacking up the prices in the first place.
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12-16-2014
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: March for health care!
Yes because in the end we need to make sure that everyone is on an equal platform. Especially the ones on welfare / food stamps - because they are not getting enough as it is.
So in return hard workers like us feel the extra burden.
The best example is the hidden 3.8% tax on housing sales, and yes granted it is on the wealthy for the most part but same ideal. "to help fund obamacare" by taxing more.
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12-19-2014
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Been there, done that.
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Re: March for health care!
As of january 1st. Due to Obama's Cadillac tax. My health care and what I have to pay has almost tripled on top of the already 22% they had already raised it over the past 2years when they announced obama care going into effect.
I still pay the same weekly premiums ($110/fam) we are now using "UNITED HEALTHCARE"
How ever yearly out of pocket expense went from $2500 cap to now $6,000
Also any visit to the ER costs $350 out of pocket before they even pay.
also my copay's... any visit to the hospital that requires a stay is also now $350/per day in copay's
So since I have a baby due in april and we stayed 5 days last our last child. I now have to pay $1750 before we leave the hospital just in copay's. That doesn't include anything else.
United health care is one of if not the largest healthcare providers too.
Mean while the child my ex wife had (wasnt mine for those wondering) was using medicare and we had zero out of pocket expenses and better service then ive had with all my children since. My wife's 6 months along and we still dont know what the baby is because they wont do another ultrasound.(last one was at 3months) as there is nothing abnormal going on.
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