March for health care! - Page 17

**1ViciousGSX** · 11-15-2013

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Originally Posted by Halon

I agree that at least he admits his mistake, but delaying it 1 year is a pathetic attempt at making it right. He straight up lied through his teeth falsly representing this law to the entire nation, that has to be grounds for some sort of action.

It was no mistake. He knew what he was selling. The only mistake is that he's been caught lying through his teeth.

He should be impeached. Here he is once again re-writing a law to fit his needs on the fly instead of going through congress. HE IS NOT A DICTATOR, we have due process in this country.

**Kracka** · 11-25-2013

My premium went down $4/month...thanks Obama

No idea how much extra my company is paying though.

SlowWhite · 12-03-2013

My premiums have gone up 22% a week due to obamacare. My company healthcare increased by 7% last jan. When it looked like obama care was going to be implemented and now they said come jan 1st 2014 they are going to raise it another 22% do to increase in health care costs to our company.

And on top of that for the last 4yrs straight blue cross blue shield has denied every claim that was submitted to them. I've averaged 4900 a year in out of pocket medical that the gov takes out of my tax returns each year. If it was 5000 I could claim it and get a refund. But its always just under the 5, 000 mark.
Bcbs even went as far to say that my baby girls insurance expired 2 months before she was even born. So so put aside the fact that I pay for the family plan here at work of $120 a week.
The medical should have been covered under my wife. But nope they refused to cover the birth of ny daughter.
Hell when my ex had her baby all she had to say was she was a single mom and the gov covered everything.

**1ViciousGSX** · 01-13-2014

Getting it yet?

dsmreck · 01-13-2014

old news America is now a bunch of pussies too afraid to band together or stand for a cause. Lost is the true heart spirit and devotion to what once was a great nation full of pride. Where are the parents and teachers? Just a bunch of morons floating around at this point. Healthcare, guns, ammo, gas, food, barcodes…we the robots obey..

sorry guys yes i've blown a gasket here guess it's back on the engine stand for me

polishmafia · 01-14-2014

tpunx99GSX · 01-20-2014

the company im with now. is cheaper than the last for healthcare, and our premiums have not gone up a dime in over 8 years. Pretty unheard of, but the company just takes any hike and doesnt pass it on to the employees. Pretty awesome company.

dsmreck · 01-28-2014

polishmafia well spoken sir. no touching of the hair or face. rights and freedoms are fair game

**1ViciousGSX** · 12-02-2014

Told ya so!!

http://dailysignal.com/2014/12/02/am..._medium=social

**asshanson** · 12-02-2014

That's a little misleading. It doesn't take into account how many people are spending money on health insurance that didn't spend any before. For instance, I can't look at that graph and say WOW internet connection prices have gone up 81%! Most of that is more people buying internet service.

Not defending obamacare at all, I just don't like how that analysis was done.

**Kracka** · 12-03-2014

So...who here is going to be paying the fine on their taxes this year?

polishmafia · 12-03-2014

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Originally Posted by asshanson

That's a little misleading. It doesn't take into account how many people are spending money on health insurance that didn't spend any before. For instance, I can't look at that graph and say WOW internet connection prices have gone up 81%! Most of that is more people buying internet service.

Not defending obamacare at all, I just don't like how that analysis was done.

I have to agree with Andrew. That article shows that people are spending less on home phones, but a huge increase in cell phones. Well, duh, thats cause everyone is moving away from having a land line.

I work for a healthcare company, and I can say that the cost of healthcare has been going up extremely fast over the years, even before the ACA was even put into place.

A//// Guy · 12-03-2014

Because obese.

tpunx99GSX · 12-03-2014

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Originally Posted by polishmafia

I have to agree with Andrew. That article shows that people are spending less on home phones, but a huge increase in cell phones. Well, duh, thats cause everyone is moving away from having a land line.

I work for a healthcare company, and I can say that the cost of healthcare has been going up extremely fast over the years, even before the ACA was even put into place.

Wish the article writer would have had a special spaceship that travels across various multiverses and could tell us:
This is what the current costs of healthcare are.
Here is what would have happened had the ACA Never existed with real facts and figures.
Oh, and heres what would have been accomplished had the conservatives stopped trying to repeal it and actually did work... hey look we populated another planet, global warming was fixed, and unemployment is at 0%.

tpunx99GSX · 12-03-2014

BTW, another year, with no health insurance premium increases at my company, which makes now 9 years i believe. (same or better coverage).

**Kracka** · 12-03-2014

That is nice of your company to eat the increases; I've seen some doing this, and some not.

**Murlo26** · 12-03-2014

My company for the first time ever passed along the increases last year and this year they are doing more.

Last year it was like 15/paycheck (30/mo), this year costs have risen another 8% and they are giving us a new option or to basically pay double the last year costs from our paycheck (now 15/week, well 14.78).

This year we have the opportunity to do a HSA and a high deductible plan. For a single person the most I pay is $2600 out of pocket a year and can deposit tax free from my paycheck to a HSA at my bank to pay for these costs. It seems like a good option and I might do it because its only $1.25 a week in stead of 14.78. Then I will take the savings and put them into a HSA and probably more as you can do up to 3350 a year into the account. So I could just put the 2600 a year into that account and call it good.

No idea what I am doing yet.

The reality is this though, people are getting free health care who weren't before and the rest of us are footing the bill. The goverment thought a bunch of young people who don't have any costs would balance the old and their high costs which didn't happen because they don't want to sign up so they pay the fee.

So Tom, just because your company choose to eat it, which they will just give you less pay raise, less bonus etc as the money comes from somewhere, doesn't mean obama care isn't fucking the rest of us because it is.

It boils down to more distribution of wealth, plain and simple.

**asshanson** · 12-03-2014

It will be interesting to see the employer contribution to my health insurance on my W2 for 2013 vs 2014. My cost is going up $2/mo (4%) for 2015 with identical coverage.

tpunx99GSX · 12-04-2014

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

My company for the first time ever passed along the increases last year and this year they are doing more.

Last year it was like 15/paycheck (30/mo), this year costs have risen another 8% and they are giving us a new option or to basically pay double the last year costs from our paycheck (now 15/week, well 14.78).

This year we have the opportunity to do a HSA and a high deductible plan. For a single person the most I pay is $2600 out of pocket a year and can deposit tax free from my paycheck to a HSA at my bank to pay for these costs. It seems like a good option and I might do it because its only $1.25 a week in stead of 14.78. Then I will take the savings and put them into a HSA and probably more as you can do up to 3350 a year into the account. So I could just put the 2600 a year into that account and call it good.

No idea what I am doing yet.

The reality is this though, people are getting free health care who weren't before and the rest of us are footing the bill. The goverment thought a bunch of young people who don't have any costs would balance the old and their high costs which didn't happen because they don't want to sign up so they pay the fee.

So Tom, just because your company choose to eat it, which they will just give you less pay raise, less bonus etc as the money comes from somewhere, doesn't mean obama care isn't fucking the rest of us because it is.

It boils down to more distribution of wealth, plain and simple.

This is a completely moot point. Because Regardless of whether the ACA Went into effect. Premiums were already increasing at a DRAMATIC rate. It likely would have been more without the ACA Provisions.
Im just sick and tired of everyone blaming the ACA for their rate increases when the rates were already increasing prior to even talks about the ACA. You cant sit there and act like your health insurance stayed the same over the 10-15 years before the ACA was voted on because it didnt. The biggest complaint prior to the ACA was that health costs were increasing to the point it was bankrupting people. Is the new system perfect... NO, Can it be IMPROVED, yes. Are the dickhead republicans trying to IMPROVE it, NO. If they spent as much time trying to improve the damn thing than they were trying to repeal it, we would have a much better outcome for the people. But instead they are so butthurt about the fact that the Dems actually got through a piece of legislation that actually does something that they cant let it go. Its complete bullshit.

**Goat Blower** · 12-04-2014

There's nothing to improve. If you wanted to improve something, you'd do it to the old system. To completely dismantle that and replace it with something that costs more and provides less, is not an improvement. That's why you don't see Republicans jumping on the bandwagon for this. This is simply the same power grab the dems have been trying to do for decades, they finally succeeded and we're all left footing the bill, or I should say us middle class folks are footing the bill.

I'm glad your premiums haven't increased, you're truly a 1%'r now.