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Old 07-01-2015   #1
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Re: removal of monuments from government property

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As I recall, the founding fathers of this country left England because of the tyrannical rule of the King. A king which was being heavily influenced by the church.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." means a) the government can't prohibited the the practice of religion. And b) it may not promote any one specific religion. This country was build on a foundation of religious freedom, we are not to be governed by one.

Having a giant 10 commandments monument at the capitol sure feels an awful lot like the government endorsing one specific religion.
I can agree with that.
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I can agree with that.
Well buddhism is one thing. But would you agree with putting a statue of Satan, for the satanic churches? Or how about a monument to Xenu, the overlord in scientologies book?
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Well buddhism is one thing. But would you agree with putting a statue of Satan, for the satanic churches? Or how about a monument to Xenu, the overlord in scientologies
Satan crap - resounding hell no I would be "offended". But that's because I dont agree with whay he stands for. And that also goes for religions that preach hate. And promote killings.

Scientology - i dont know anything about it other then the big bang theory is what i always thought that is what they believe. And the answer to that would be yes, but since we are taking all religion out of our gov.

Then put this stuff in museums or a dedicated building.
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Satan crap - resounding hell no I would be "offended". But that's because I dont agree with whay he stands for. And that also goes for religions that preach hate. And promote killings.

Scientology - i dont know anything about it other then the big bang theory is what i always thought that is what they believe. And the answer to that would be yes, but since we are taking all religion out of our gov.

Then put this stuff in museums or a dedicated building.
Lol Scientology has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Big Bang. It has NOTHING to do with science. It was made up like every other religion by a person. In scientologies case a man by the name of L Ron Hubbard
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And that also goes for religions that preach hate. And promote killings.
Because of how certain media and circles of ignorant people spread false information. I'm taking a guess and assuming you just shot across the bow of Islam/Muslims?

If so, you are misinformed. If you care to learn the truth, I'd be happy to chat.



Those who are out there doing hanous things in the name of Islam, are extremists who are off the reservation. 99% of Muslims disagree with these idiots actions. There are roughly 1.6 billion Muslims in this world. There are bound to be those who use religion for their own agenda.

Regarding those founding fathers who wrote our history, there were some Muslims or at least some influence of the religion in there to(wasn't very known) if memory serves me right. But Christian/Jewish/Muslim religions are mostly the same anyways(which most people don't seem to know or want to acknowledge) so moot point.

Quick search result:

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0205/tolerance.html

And recent issues with the Church include bad things to little boys and there is still chaos in Ireland in the name of Christianity.

All religions have their nuts, its easy to point at someone else's and make generalized opinions. Don't forgot to look at your own first.

Regarding removal of items from these places. Who cares?
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Regarding removal of items from these places. Who cares?
Obviously many people,......
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Re: removal of monuments from government property

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Because of how certain media and circles of ignorant people spread false information. I'm taking a guess and assuming you just shot across the bow of Islam/Muslims?

If so, you are misinformed. If you care to learn the truth, I'd be happy to chat.



Those who are out there doing hanous things in the name of Islam, are extremists who are off the reservation. 99% of Muslims disagree with these idiots actions. There are roughly 1.6 billion Muslims in this world. There are bound to be those who use religion for their own agenda.

Regarding those founding fathers who wrote our history, there were some Muslims or at least some influence of the religion in there to(wasn't very known) if memory serves me right. But Christian/Jewish/Muslim religions are mostly the same anyways(which most people don't seem to know or want to acknowledge) so moot point.

Quick search result:

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0205/tolerance.html

And recent issues with the Church include bad things to little boys and there is still chaos in Ireland in the name of Christianity.

All religions have their nuts, its easy to point at someone else's and make generalized opinions. Don't forgot to look at your own first.

Regarding removal of items from these places. Who cares?
There are radicals in every religion, those are the ones thay im referring to. It falls in line again with how people change it to fot there needs and desires
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