Disapointed in people

[JET]

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

I guess it has a lot to do with context. The "religion of peace" isn't so peaceful when you get right down to it.

Neither is Catholicism. Most religions say to wipe out other religions.

[DSMINMN]

Originally Posted by JET

Neither is Catholicism. Most religions say to wipe out other religions.

I never claimed it was. In the same mention you won't read anywhere in the Bible to kill all infidels. Or things of this nature.

[JET]

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

I never claimed it was. In the same mention you won't read anywhere in the Bible to kill all infidels. Or things of this nature.

Looks like you need to read it more:

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

There are also references in Samuel to the same affect.

[DSMINMN]

Originally Posted by JET

Looks like you need to read it more:

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

There are also references in Samuel to the same affect.

Ahhhhh. You know, it is SO refreshing to see out of context posts about the Bible online. Please oh please; sense the sarcasm. This get's so old so fast. If you're going to make a reach such as this at least try to help yourself out and read a good amount before this and well after it. It hurts you in the long run.

I just feel like mentioning a quote from Daniel Patrick Moynihan "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts". Really an interesting quote, isn't it? Let me get into this...something I wasn't even aware of until you made such a silly post.


Literally anyone can post a certain part of the Bible out of context. Sure you (as well as anyone else [again]), can bitch and moan that context means nothing but let's face it...context is key in everything.


The fact of the matter is what you posted is PART of the directions God gave to Old covenant Israel and absolutely no one else. This was before Israel was even established. Sadly this is probably the easiest answer to give without filling a page full of information..

Of course this will probably mean nothing to you and you'll continue thinking it is an order to followers of Christ for all of eternity. Then try to use it everywhere else. Hopefully someone with ten minutes sees it and does such as I did.

Context is key and that is simply the cold hard fact. Like it or not.

[Speedfreak]

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

Oh boy..

Unless everyone decides to accept everyone they're some sort of "ist" or "ic". It's funny how the world has turned some type of way when in reality everything is being forced to change now. So realistically everything is being forced or attempted to change in the favor of these people.

One cannot point fingers when we get down to the nitty-gritty. Especially when the word Muslim comes into play.

This is not to say were not supposed to love our neighbor despite their personal decisions err...yeah.

I do not have a kid so I won't attempt to answer the question.

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

I guess it has a lot to do with context. The "religion of peace" isn't so peaceful when you get right down to it.

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

I never claimed it was. In the same mention you won't read anywhere in the Bible to kill all infidels. Or things of this nature.

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

Ahhhhh. You know, it is SO refreshing to see out of context posts about the Bible online. Please oh please; sense the sarcasm. This get's so old so fast. If you're going to make a reach such as this at least try to help yourself out and read a good amount before this and well after it. It hurts you in the long run.

I just feel like mentioning a quote from Daniel Patrick Moynihan "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts". Really an interesting quote, isn't it? Let me get into this...something I wasn't even aware of until you made such a silly post.


Literally anyone can post a certain part of the Bible out of context. Sure you (as well as anyone else [again]), can bitch and moan that context means nothing but let's face it...context is key in everything.


The fact of the matter is what you posted is PART of the directions God gave to Old covenant Israel and absolutely no one else. This was before Israel was even established. Sadly this is probably the easiest answer to give without filling a page full of information..

Of course this will probably mean nothing to you and you'll continue thinking it is an order to followers of Christ for all of eternity. Then try to use it everywhere else. Hopefully someone with ten minutes sees it and does such as I did.

Context is key and that is simply the cold hard fact. Like it or not.

You talk about context in relation to the Bible, but don't seem to extend that concept to (acceptance of that concept) to others in this case. It's a valid point, but everyone needs to understand it's happening by others outside of the cause / religion you care about personally.

What you mention about pulling something out then taking it out of context to use in an unintended fashion is exactly what's going on in the world currently with people claiming they are Muslims and doing terrible things.

To condemn anyone, you must first actually know facts. There are many interfaith groups in most big cities who get together to understand each others religions and work together to dispel ignorance. If anyone actually cares about truth, this is a good avenue to learn. MN has a strong group of learned Christians, Jews and Muslims (all people of the book) who gather regularly for the last 25 years. Other religious and non religious groups attend, it's just organized by these three.

[DSMINMN]

Originally Posted by Speedfreak

You talk about context in relation to the Bible, but don't seem to extend that concept to (acceptance of that concept) to others in this case. It's a valid point, but everyone needs to understand it's happening by others outside of the cause / religion you care about personally.

What you mention about pulling something out then taking it out of context to use in an unintended fashion is exactly what's going on in the world currently with people claiming they are Muslims and doing terrible things.

To condemn anyone, you must first actually know facts. There are many interfaith groups in most big cities who get together to understand each others religions and work together to dispel ignorance. If anyone actually cares about truth, this is a good avenue to learn. MN has a strong group of learned Christians, Jews and Muslims (all people of the book) who gather regularly for the last 25 years. Other religious and non religious groups attend, it's just organized by these three.

See what is funny about that statement is, I can throw it right out knowing this peaceful religion was a straight copy off of the Bible. Than the usual twists and tricks. As well as a certain prophet dying and never having risen from the dead as he claimed he would.

Whereas in the Bible this isn't the case. Those who claim otherwise are illiterate and illogical naysayers that are clinging to their disbelief (or as many would like to say humanist belief/faith), based on irrational...be it fear..? That their humanist faith is in fact crumbling and has been for decades if not longer.

When it comes down to these things one has to chuckle.. I'm starting to see my time spent here leaving a comment was a waste and I feel we're about to jump onto a merry-go-round of useless claims. Full of wasted time for the fact that people cannot educate themselves on simple facts. Such as earlier taking a section from the Bible, how the Quran came to be, what things have been proven yet people still claim otherwise..it's really quite sad and pathetic.

Do with this what you may.

[Speedfreak]

Originally Posted by DSMINMN

See what is funny about that statement is, I can throw it right out knowing this peaceful religion was a straight copy off of the Bible. Than the usual twists and tricks. As well as a certain prophet dying and never having risen from the dead as he claimed he would.

Whereas in the Bible this isn't the case. Those who claim otherwise are illiterate and illogical naysayers that are clinging to their disbelief (or as many would like to say humanist belief/faith), based on irrational...be it fear..? That their humanist faith is in fact crumbling and has been for decades if not longer.

When it comes down to these things one has to chuckle.. I'm starting to see my time spent here leaving a comment was a waste and I feel we're about to jump onto a merry-go-round of useless claims. Full of wasted time for the fact that people cannot educate themselves on simple facts. Such as earlier taking a section from the Bible, how the Quran came to be, what things have been proven yet people still claim otherwise..it's really quite sad and pathetic.

Do with this what you may.

I really don't care what anyone's beliefs are. As I mentioned, if you are a good person by most people's standards, that's all that matters.

I would like to correct something you said. While the three religions are overlapping in most the prophets, stories etc. None were derived from the other. Each religion believes their book was created through a specific prophet by God (originally).

As far as a prophet coming back. Our belief is he is coming back at the end of time (fwiw).