Potential Buy 1997 GSX - Page 5

dsmghost · 06-02-2014

You should start a project thread now since it's not a potential buy anymore.

SlowWhite · 06-02-2014

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Originally Posted by dsmghost

Yes it's very easy. Go to the Boost (WGS) tab and look at the Base Duty Cycle chart, highligh. the range you want to increase the boost and hit ctrl + up or simply raise the numbers a couple points. Then test drive and see what boost you hit and tweak it until it's where you want it.

If your logging a map sensor and you have a good base duty cycle chart setup already then you can enable the error correction feature which is pretty cool. But I just use the base duty cycle chart.

http://www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/bcssetup?s[]=boost&s[]=wgs

Ghost,

I know there are three gears listed. And to help the tranny I am thinking of leaving gears one and probably two at the 17psi.

And then just up gear three. Am I correct in thinking all I have to do then is just change the gear three settings?

Also any idea how much to increase to get a psi? Or does it vary based on setups?

Im not at home so can't review logs but I believe the 17psi is set at like 29 on the base duty cycle and when he was running 30psi I think the number was 56. might be a calculation there to get the nimber requires for each psi.

SlowWhite · 06-02-2014

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Originally Posted by dsmghost

You should start a project thread now since it's not a potential buy anymore.

I was going to start one as soon as I get started on the interior.

SlowWhite · 06-02-2014

Anyone know or have experience with "Godspeed radiators, fan shrouds, fan combo"?

There is a combo for sale in nc for $120 coming off a 1997 gsx part out on a tuners ad.

My car only has one fan on it now. Doesnt over heat but coolant gets up to 223 when ever I stay in boost or cruise for long periods of time (ie. Drive home it would go from 216-223) most of the trip. Nothing im worried about just seemed like a decent deal and is by where im going to get interior parts

**Goat Blower** · 06-02-2014

Godspeed is the cheap Ebay parts slinger, but it might not be bad. You can probably get it new for that price though.

For pump gas, you don't need much for injectors, I'm running my 720's. I've got an extra set if you're interested.

DON'T START PAINTING THE INTERIOR AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SlowWhite · 06-02-2014

Lol the cloth is horrible Steve.. And out of the 200 dsm at this salvage yard he doesn't have most of the parts for black interior. Or I would buy it no questions asked.

As far as the radiator goes I know I bought my old fluidyne for I think $350 and the fans for another $100.
However I had pusher fans not puller since I had removed the a/c in that car.

The radiator and fans aren't necessary now just wasn't sure if it was a good product. They radiator alone is listed at $137 new on eBay but haven't checked the prices of the fan shroud with 2 fans.

My initial idea for future build parts was to use all mishimoto stuff from map.

SlowWhite · 06-02-2014

http://www.maperformance.com/aem-dig...i-30-4407.html

http://www.maperformance.com/mishimo...e-adapter.html

I also need to install an oil gauge. Owner said he replaced the sending unit but nothing changed on the dash so he was thinking the dash part itself isnt working.

I know I had an autometer oil gauge that worked for like a month and then I never could get it to work again on my old car.

This one has a forward facing filter housing and the turbo feed comes from it as well.
I like the adapter plate as it sounds like it would make for a clean install if I ever wanted to add to it.
Seems dumb but the aem gauge is because its the same style as my boost and wideband. And im ocd about looks/matching stuff.

Any comments on the adapter and does anyone know of problems using it with a forward facing filter housing

**Halon** · 06-02-2014

I would think your money could be spent better elsewhere. If it ain't broke...

**asshanson** · 06-02-2014

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Originally Posted by SlowWhite

My car only has one fan on it now. Doesnt over heat but coolant gets up to 223 when ever I stay in boost or cruise for long periods of time (ie. Drive home it would go from 216-223) most of the trip. Nothing im worried about just seemed like a decent deal and is by where im going to get interior parts

216-223 coolant temps while cruising seems high. My car with stock radiator and AC fan removed (just had the stock passenger side fan) would rarely go above 190 while cruising. Just the airflow without a fan at highway speeds should be enough to cool it unless it's 100+ outside.
That is a cheap price for a radiator/fan setup, just make sure the shroud is good, as that really determines how effective the fans are going to be for pullers. Oh, and hook them to the stock wiring and let the ECU control them, don't wire them on 100% or anything like that.

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower

DON'T START PAINTING THE INTERIOR AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This! (I've seen pics)

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Originally Posted by SlowWhite

Seems dumb but the aem gauge is because its the same style as my boost and wideband. And im ocd about looks/matching stuff.

Any comments on the adapter and does anyone know of problems using it with a forward facing filter housing

Forward facing shouldn't matter for the sandwich plate. I like matching gauges as well, had AEM wideband and oil temp in my last car.

Why is the car at 17psi when it was just tuned for low 20's??

SlowWhite · 06-02-2014

Asshanson - not sure on the boost issue was tuned in florida for 22psi. And while driving in florida ot read 21-22 on the gauge. Not sure what all would effect the boost to read 137-18psi now.

But I know outside temps, humidity, maybe altitude are all different here if they play a part? At least that's what I was thinking at least. Figured my tune is going to need adjusting anyways once I got here. I just wanted it setup for the trip home and once I get up to speed on v3 I was going to work on fine tuning the car. Just waiting for my laptop. He was supposed to ship it today but haven't checked my email.

SlowWhite · 06-02-2014

Also as far as outside temps go here in sc. Its almost always in the 90's starting spring. Come summer temps are typically in the low 100's. Around aug-sept.

That radiator i mentioned above is set up for plug and play and read the fans are rated at 1250cfm each.

I did get the 2nd oem fan with the car but i doubt it'll fit with the punishment o2 housing.

**asshanson** · 06-03-2014

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Originally Posted by SlowWhite

I know there are three gears listed. And to help the tranny I am thinking of leaving gears one and probably two at the 17psi.

And then just up gear three.

Forgot to quote this earlier. From what I've been told, 1st and 2nd you don't have to worry about breaking gears, it's the torque that breaks 3rd and 4th because of their placement in the transmission.

I guess maybe you are worried about synchros, and not breaking the gears? Just be nice when shifting and low 20's should be no problem.

SlowWhite · 06-03-2014

I took the car to work last night. And on the way home was finally able to do an honest pull.

Boost gauge reached 22psi but not till higher revs. Around like 6,000

But the wideband was reading 10.5 for most of the pull.

I have never had a wideband before but I thought you want to the a/f to be around 12.1 correct?

My laptop is suppose to arrive tomorrow. Im going to park the car today and wait till I have my laptop before I drive it again that way I can log a full pull.

**JET** · 06-03-2014

Yeah, 10.5 is very rich. Does it read leaner at idle and cruise? I am just wondering if the sensor is still good or not.

SlowWhite · 06-03-2014

At cruise it swings around 14.5. Also when I let off the gas it goes off the charts the guage just shows three dashes

**Halon** · 06-03-2014

yeah 10.5 is quite rich, but if you've never really compared the cars wideband to say a lab grade one on a dyno, it could be 1 AFR off for all we know and be actually running at 11.5 which would be fairly solid.

**Goat Blower** · 06-03-2014

When in doubt, read the plugs.

SlowWhite · 06-03-2014

Color on plugs should be... light grey right? And this car has the buscher cop set up. Which yet again I've never had experience with cop setups. Do you just unbolt the hole plate and lift up? Or how do you take them off?

**JET** · 06-03-2014

Ewwww... COP. I have never had first hand experience with one that worked good. I have experience with a half a dozen that didn't work, 2 that I tried myself. They always broke up under boost, just like you are talking about.

turbotalon1g · 06-03-2014

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Originally Posted by SlowWhite

Color on plugs should be... light grey right? And this car has the buscher cop set up. Which yet again I've never had experience with cop setups. Do you just unbolt the hole plate and lift up? Or how do you take them off?

Use a BFH, works really fast.