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Old 05-12-2014   #21
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Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/

whats the housing on the hx35? I want to run 12cm (stock) hotside on mine with a twin scroll manifold and custom downpipe.

but then reality hits and I realize I cant afford any of it :P
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Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/

Bolt on with a .55 housing. Hes running a fp race manifold
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Old 05-12-2014   #23
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Oh and what youll really love is one of the cars I'm looking at and leaning towards has an hx35 also..

The other car has a Garrett 4088 dbb with a built 2.4.
Is it running the stock 12cm hotside? Twin scroll manifold?
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I would just take $100 and get yourself on speed density. Tuning is so much easier on sd. The car will pretty much tune itself after you dial in the idle for everything but wot.
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everyone was saying how easy it is to tune with link. I don't think its easy at all.

Yes for closed loop operation there is the SD VE Adjust tool. It will recommend adjustments to the VE table based on fuel trims, but there is also the MAFComp Adjust tool that uses fuel trims to calculate adjustments for the MAFComp sliders if using a MAF. With both tools it is very important to have proper global fuel settings first.

But thats just the beginning, WOT is where you spend your time tuning. To tune safely and still make power it helps having a good understanding of what A/F ratio and ignition timing should be corresponding to load and RPM and the effect ignition timing has on A/F ratio. So making adjustments to your timing table effects the A/F ratio and would likely require airflow adjustment to keep things where you want them and so on. It goes much more in depth than this. So yeah I guess its not "easy" but once you start playing around with it you'll gain more understanding of the whole thing.
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Your logging a wideband right? I dont have my laptop right now so I cant look at your logs you posted on the link forum yet.

Whats your current turbo?

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Your logging a wideband right? I dont have my laptop right now so I cant look at your logs you posted on the link forum yet.

And whats your current turbo?
yes, I have a wideband.

one thing I noticed is that my wideband reads anywhere from 16-18 at idle.

isn't that crazy lean?

but then when I look at my logs it says different?

I have the white wire on my wideband ran to pin 75 on my ecu as well
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yes, I have a wideband.

one thing I noticed is that my wideband reads anywhere from 16-18 at idle.

isn't that crazy lean?

but then when I look at my logs it says different?

I have the white wire on my wideband ran to pin 75 on my ecu as well
Before any tuning at all you need to have your WB gauge and your WB logged to be the same.
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Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/

Thd owner said its the bep housing. And I hate this latest update to my phone the predictive texting is horrible.

He's running an fp. Race manifold. (See earlier post)
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Old 05-12-2014   #29
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what do you guys use to open others logs? I have tried to click on others logs to gain some insight on what others look like, but when I click to open it brings me to windows media player?

how would I get them to sync?
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my wideband when logged only shows volts. it dosent give me a value?

i think i was looking at my afr estimates
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what do you guys use to open others logs? I have tried to click on others logs to gain some insight on what others look like, but when I click to open it brings me to windows media player?

how would I get them to sync?
That's gonna be your computers settings or your version of link. Do you have the latest firmware/update installed? I click logs a window pops up and I click open with ecmlink.
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my wideband when logged only shows volts. it dosent give me a value?

i think i was looking at my afr estimates
For now concentrate on getting your wideband to match and log properly. How do you have it set up in your ECU Inputs tab? Once you get it set up properly if they don't match up I would suggest setting it up under Linear Wideband to compensate for the voltage offset.

http://www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/linearitems
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under the documentation label in link?
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I would just take $100 and get yourself on speed density. Tuning is so much easier on sd. The car will pretty much tune itself after you dial in the idle for everything but wot. As soon as I get off work I will post a link that will explain everything you will need to know in full easy to understand detail.
would you still be able to post the link?
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my wideband when logged only shows volts. it dosent give me a value?
This is all in the wiki, have you watched all the tutorial videos?
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This is all in the wiki, have you watched all the tutorial videos?
unless there is a second page of them?
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Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/

im honestly not giving myself enough credit here. I know a little, but im just scared to really attempt anything on my own, its like im playing the childhood game of operation, and everytime I go to do anything or adjust it I hear that "BZZZZZZ" sound in the back of my head lol

would just feel more comfortable with someone who knows the ins and outs answering questions as I go about it.

I rather be really cautious now and ask 101 questions to get the right answers then dick around and destroy my car :/
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im honestly not giving myself enough credit here. I know a little, but im just scared to really attempt anything on my own, its like im playing the childhood game of operation, and everytime I go to do anything or adjust it I hear that "BZZZZZZ" sound in the back of my head lol

would just feel more comfortable with someone who knows the ins and outs answering questions as I go about it.

I rather be really cautious now and ask 101 questions to get the right answers then dick around and destroy my car :/
Yeah man first step just get your wideband logged properly reading in AFR, it's all in the wiki.
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this is a download link to a pdf file and has tons of awesome info.



http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...66330100,d.aWw
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What wb are you attempting to use? If it’s an lc1 you are going to have to download the lm programmer and set your voltage points on your wb and in link. IF you don’t have this set up right there is no point on going any farther.
https://www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/innovatelc1orlm1install
get it here
http://www.ecmtuning.com/images/foru...MConfig315.exe

I had a second to look at your log quick.
Your global dead time needs to go back to 0. Check your car with timing light. Confirm its 5 degrees behind tdc. Is this a 6 bolt swap?

Set your coolant cel light down from 234 to 215. Unclick disable airflow smoothing with sd operation. I assume you have a stock TB? if so unclick the idle switch operation. And log it in your next log to make sure its activating properly.

Do this and get a log of with how you have your wb set up.

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