11-29-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Wideband o2 question
Okay so I have an older FJO wideband in my car. It won't read under 13.0:1. I was just going to try a new sensor but a new sensor is almost $300. So my question is this kind of sensor really worth it and that much better? Or should I just get a whole new wide band setup?
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11-29-2012
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#2
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Wideband o2 question
New setup.
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11-29-2012
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Sonic Champion!
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Re: Wideband o2 question
Probably just get a new setup. New AEM widebands are going for around $160 nowadays.
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11-29-2012
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: Wideband o2 question
wtf is an FJO? Some crap swifty got for cheap and tried to make work?
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11-29-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Wideband o2 question
FJO is a brand lol. they seem to be a quality part from what I've found. the older one uses a different sensor that is expensive. I was just wondering if there were any benefits to running this type of sensor that would justify spending almost $300 on just the sensor
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11-29-2012
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Wideband o2 question
I have a PLX M300 for sale.
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11-29-2012
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#7
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Wideband o2 question
How much? I'm not exactly in the market for a wideband just yet. I have to finish getting my engine together and back in first
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11-29-2012
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Pewp Champion
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Re: Wideband o2 question
Just get a new one. PLX's are nice, that's what I ran in my Talon.
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11-29-2012
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formerly ecoli
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Re: Wideband o2 question
FJO was the most commonly used units until the cheaper Bosch sensor based wideband started coming out in the mid 2000s. They usually used an NTK sensor instead of the Bosch. The NTK sensor lasts much much longer, is more accurate, and doesn't die right away on leaded gas.
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11-29-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Wideband o2 question
A new one it is. I kind of like the plx m300 or the ngk one since they are boxes like the fjo that way it will be easy to install without having to figure out how to mount a new gauge
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11-29-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Wideband o2 question
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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance
FJO was the most commonly used units until the cheaper Bosch sensor based wideband started coming out in the mid 2000s. They usually used an NTK sensor instead of the Bosch. The NTK sensor lasts much much longer, is more accurate, and doesn't die right away on leaded gas.
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Is there a new and old style ntk sensor or something? I was looking into them and the new fjo the ngk wideband says it used an ntk sensor and the replacement sensors for that are like 150 and the replacement sensor for the older fjo I found was like 290
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11-29-2012
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formerly ecoli
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Re: Wideband o2 question
You might be able to take one of the NTK sensor sensors, cut the connector off and then solder on the unique FJO connector. Post up some pics of your old sensor and any part #s on the sensor itself and I can compare to some of my NTK sensors.
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11-29-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Wideband o2 question
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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance
You might be able to take one of the NTK sensor sensors, cut the connector off and then solder on the unique FJO connector. Post up some pics of your old sensor and any part #s on the sensor itself and I can compare to some of my NTK sensors.
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Okay cool. The car is at my buddy's house but I will be over there this weekend working on it. I'll take some pictures and get the part numbers
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12-01-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Wideband o2 question
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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance
You might be able to take one of the NTK sensor sensors, cut the connector off and then solder on the unique FJO connector. Post up some pics of your old sensor and any part #s on the sensor itself and I can compare to some of my NTK sensors.
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The only numbers I could see on the sensor was L1H1 and CS000. Here's a couple pics too
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12-03-2012
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formerly ecoli
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Re: Wideband o2 question
It looks a lot like the NTK sensors I use, but the wire colors are different. Same connector.
I think the L1H1 NTK has been discontinued and replaced with the L2H2.
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12-03-2012
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aka Goodbye
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Re: Wideband o2 question
Those ultra efficient Honda's used to come with a factory NTK sensor in the early 2000's, I don't know if they've gotten any cheaper since then.
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12-03-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Wideband o2 question
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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance
It looks a lot like the NTK sensors I use, but the wire colors are different. Same connector.
I think the L1H1 NTK has been discontinued and replaced with the L2H2.
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Okay cool. So then would an L2H2 work in place of this sensor? And are they something that you stock?
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
Those ultra efficient Honda's used to come with a factory NTK sensor in the early 2000's, I don't know if they've gotten any cheaper since then.
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I think Swifty did say it was the same sensor as one of those Hondas
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12-03-2012
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#18
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Wideband o2 question
Those Honda one's haven't our 2005 o2 was $150+
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12-03-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Wideband o2 question
Ok cool. Thanks for the link!
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