Proving Grounds 2011 feedback?

**cmspaz** · 06-29-2011

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Originally Posted by scheides

Tech inspection, like others said speed it up somehow--I went to get inspected for drag while I was in between autoX heats--I ended up being late getting back for my second heat b/c of the wait, and we had a 30 minute break.

AutoX track was fucking EPIC, have the track be somewhat like that again next year and the organizers were fucking awesome. Tech took 30 seconds, driver's meeting took 3 minutes, we were racing before I knew what was happening. That's how it should be

I know there were issues with some individuals, but security was acting like mean big brothers/disgruntled cops/a-holes, not like shepherds of an awesome race track like last year.

Yes, yes, and yes.

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Originally Posted by Halon

Require mufflers on Starlets.

If they started that abomination near my car, it would fuck with my MAF so bad my car would die.

Tell them that if the loudest POS there can't run faster than my daily fucking driver they need to leave it at home, it's embarrassing and nobody fucking likes them.

**goodhart** · 06-29-2011

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Originally Posted by cmspaz

If they started that abomination near my car, it would fuck with my MAF so bad my car would die.

Tell them that if the loudest POS there can't run faster than my daily fucking driver they need to leave it at home, it's embarrassing and nobody fucking likes them.

Didn't a clown car beat MAP's fdsm? lol

**cmspaz** · 06-29-2011

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Originally Posted by goodhart

Didn't a clown car beat MAP's fdsm? lol

The white one, which weirdly had a muffler. The shit brown one only ran a mid-12.

Also to note, that white one ran no better than 10s from what I saw all day on Saturday, then bust an 8.9 out of nowhere on Sunday. Who sandbags at an event like this? lol

Zivman · 06-29-2011

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Originally Posted by cmspaz

The white one, which weirdly had a muffler. The shit brown one only ran a mid-12.

Also to note, that white one ran no better than 10s from what I saw all day on Saturday, then bust an 8.9 out of nowhere on Sunday. Who sandbags at an event like this? lol

I am good friends with those guys. all their cars are legit. the brown one is a N/A rotory and runs mid 12's.... I think that is pretty solid

the white car ran two 9.0 runs and a 9.10 on friday and ran a 8.90 and 9.0 on saturday. Please explain how that is sandbagging? His times have been getting better and better. last year I think his best time was a 9.40 on the setup

... and the white one has no muffler... basically straight 5" dump off the turbo

hoping next yr I have time to join them

**cmspaz** · 06-30-2011

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Originally Posted by Zivman

I am good friends with those guys. all their cars are legit. the brown one is a N/A rotory and runs mid 12's.... I think that is pretty solid

the white car ran two 9.0 runs and a 9.10 on friday and ran a 8.90 and 9.0 on saturday. Please explain how that is sandbagging? His times have been getting better and better. last year I think his best time was a 9.40 on the setup

... and the white one has no muffler... basically straight 5" dump off the turbo

hoping next yr I have time to join them

A solid time, yes. Justification for the noise it makes, no. Seriously, you cannot possibly justify that kind of noise when cars next to it won't stay running. It's not loud, it's obscene and offensive, and the two times my car died next to it I'd have gone as far as labeling it downright antagonistic. And despite putting down a "respectable" time, the fact remains that it's a purpose-built race car that's slower than my daily driver.

And the turbo is effectively a muffler, which explains why that one makes at least tolerable noise levels. I guess I misread one of the times (probably the 9.10) as a 10.x, my bad. I was doing my best to ignore their cars.

In the end, I'd have zero issues with that group if they'd leave the brown car and the noisy pit bikes/atvs/etc at home and make normal amounts of noise like everyone else.

And that's coming from the loudest person on MitsuStyle.

Zivman · 06-30-2011

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Originally Posted by cmspaz

A solid time, yes. Justification for the noise it makes, no. Seriously, you cannot possibly justify that kind of noise when cars next to it won't stay running. It's not loud, it's obscene and offensive, and the two times my car died next to it I'd have gone as far as labeling it downright antagonistic. And despite putting down a "respectable" time, the fact remains that it's a purpose-built race car that's slower than my daily driver.
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you are at a track.... cars are going to be loud.

the brown car is loud, but not 'that' loud. If your car can't stay running because of the noise, I would say that is more your problem than theirs. Sure it isn't the fastest thing out there, but for the money into it, they have fun with it and it runs decent times. And good for you, you have a fast DD. MY evo is probably faster than it was well <- just don't see how that matters much.

They go to the track for a good time. I say lighten up a bit and have a good time too

**Murlo26** · 06-30-2011

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Originally Posted by cmspaz

And that's coming from the loudest person on MitsuStyle.

Whos the loudest here? And loud like car or loud like loudmouth

ylimert01 · 06-30-2011

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Whos the loudest here? And loud like car or loud like loudmouth

sad missed this year.

**cmspaz** · 06-30-2011

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Whos the loudest here? And loud like car or loud like loudmouth

Loudmouth

jrohner · 06-30-2011

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Originally Posted by cmspaz

A solid time, yes. Justification for the noise it makes, no. Seriously, you cannot possibly justify that kind of noise when cars next to it won't stay running. It's not loud, it's obscene and offensive, and the two times my car died next to it I'd have gone as far as labeling it downright antagonistic. And despite putting down a "respectable" time, the fact remains that it's a purpose-built race car that's slower than my daily driver.

And the turbo is effectively a muffler, which explains why that one makes at least tolerable noise levels. I guess I misread one of the times (probably the 9.10) as a 10.x, my bad. I was doing my best to ignore their cars.

In the end, I'd have zero issues with that group if they'd leave the brown car and the noisy pit bikes/atvs/etc at home and make normal amounts of noise like everyone else.
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So you'd wanna tell Brent Rau to go home if he showed up (the most amazing drag car ever), since his car is loud.

**cmspaz** · 07-01-2011

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Originally Posted by jrohner

So you'd wanna tell Brent Rau to go home if he showed up (the most amazing drag car ever), since his car is loud.

No I would not. The difference is that Rau is fast as shit and his car has a genuine reason to be that loud. That rotary wouldn't run perceptibly slower if they had enough decency and consideration for others to put a $40 muffler on it.

**Tachyon** · 06-29-2011

A centralized information nexus would be key. This would facilitate solutions to several issues:

1. With the wind, it is very very hard to hear the announcer call your class to staging lanes -even harder if you are over watching an event such as drift.

2. An updated schedule should be maintained via a simple web page and also displayed at the aforementioned information booth. I saw a whole mess of cars leaving for breakfast not 5 minutes before the announcement that the drag time table had been moved up. This could cause issues.

3. Sinage. A few signs to point towards tech, autoX and info booth would be of great benefit. Plus they can be reused for years to come.

4. Suggested addition: mobile dyno. Just a thought...

5. Obviously faster tech. Sitting in like for a few hours was confusing at best.

6. The guys that ran autoX were amazing. I've never seen an event go off so efficiently. Please invite them back next year.

7. I really enjoyed racing heads up VS bracket. However, there might be a need for a bracket field as well.

8. I actually don't mind the drag announcer... I enjoy the old school folksy of it all. I think that with the plethora of top fuel cars that see that track, he's just keeping it real.

Anyway, that's all I got.

Dizmm · 06-29-2011

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Originally Posted by scheides

AutoX track was fucking EPIC, have the track be somewhat like that again next year and the organizers were fucking awesome. Tech took 30 seconds, driver's meeting took 3 minutes, we were racing before I knew what was happening. That's how it should be

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Originally Posted by Tachyon

6. The guys that ran autoX were amazing. I've never seen an event go off so efficiently. Please invite them back next year.

Thanks a lot guys! really means a lot and I'm glad the hard work of the CWSCC crew paid off. I hope MAP lets us to it again next year.