02-24-2011
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formerly ecoli
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
The stock tune is awesome on those cars. You can pick up a good 50-70whp just from tuning them and doing no mods.
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02-24-2011
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
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Originally Posted by Halon
Mlomker you can see used the SAE correction factor.
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That sheet was from the Fall `09 dyno day.
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02-24-2011
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#23
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
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Originally Posted by Halon
What correction factor was used? I don't see it on the MAP dyno sheet. Mlomker you can see used the SAE correction factor.
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02-24-2011
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#24
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
How many bone stock X's have you guys really SEEN in person?
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02-24-2011
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#25
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
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Originally Posted by niterydr
Project GGX huh? What did I win off the Facebook comment contest?
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Haha didn't know you suggested that, I told Dan we should call it that before the "contest" but I'll see if we can't get something over to you!
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Originally Posted by mlomker
Naw, just means he'll have 10 guys working on the car to minimize the downtime...and all of the parts choices will be bizarre, depending on which vendor gives him free stuff.
Basically just like the Evo X in Modified magazine.
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It will progress slowly, but to accomplish our goals she's going to need a built lower end And the majority of the parts will be MAP this time around, we learned our lesson in that regard lol.
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Solid numbers though. MAP - have you baselined any other 100% stock X's?
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We've had some come through but we can't recall any names, we need a Cobb like system to keep track by car lol.
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02-24-2011
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flips McGee
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
Woot for another X in town!
My advice, convert to e85, keep the tune conservative, have fun on the stock turbo w/ bolt-ons for a bit. AutoX the thing (let's organize!). Have fun with it! Do a stock-frame turbo upgrade (perhaps something custom? ) and push the stock bottom-end a bit. Do some IM testing w/ your rev2/rev3 products, a ported stock TB, and the boomba 75mm guy (see the current TB discussion in the tech section) and see what does what. Maybe even a SMIM?
IDK, just focus on wide powerbands and reliability. That's what make evos evos!
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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02-24-2011
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
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Originally Posted by scheides
Maybe even a SMIM?
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We're now in the day of cast
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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02-24-2011
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
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Originally Posted by v8klla
we need a Cobb like system to keep track by car lol.
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Do it!
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I agree with Kracka.
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02-24-2011
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flips McGee
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
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Originally Posted by Kracka
We're now in the day of cast
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Muahaha here we go, get ready to move this discussion to a new thread!
Two of the four best performing manifolds (that I've seen) for the evo8/9 are SMIM, the other two are cast, one of which is a ported stocker. Granted, the SMIMs have a ton of CNC parts so they are not just pure sheet metal, so I think with MAP's fab department a SMIM would be a real trick piece that I'd love to see tested out (with various TB's).
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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02-24-2011
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#30
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aka Goodbye
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
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Originally Posted by scheides
My advice, convert to e85, keep the tune conservative, have fun on the stock turbo w/ bolt-ons for a bit. AutoX the thing (let's organize!). Have fun with it! Do a stock-frame turbo upgrade (perhaps something custom? ) and push the stock bottom-end a bit. Do some IM testing w/ your rev2/rev3 products, a ported stock TB, and the boomba 75mm guy (see the current TB discussion in the tech section) and see what does what. Maybe even a SMIM?
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You do realize this is a parts development mule, don't you? I would guess the BPU mods have already been beat to death. I'm guessing this thing is going to go big real soon because there's not as many parts available for that crowd. Besides, Chris has a pretty nice daily driver in case the GGX is in the shop for an extra day or two.
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02-24-2011
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back in the saddle again
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
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Originally Posted by v8klla
Haha didn't know you suggested that, I told Dan we should call it that before the "contest" but I'll see if we can't get something over to you!
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I am in your head stealing your thoughts!!
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02-28-2011
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#32
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
Confirmed that she's still rocking stock exhaust this weekend as I finally got it up on the lift, should have the first modification (air intake) with dyno results done this week!
In the meantime, I used to rock these wheels on my Evo 8, yay or nay? And yes I know it's dirty, we got several inches of snow on Saturday and as I outlined above this is my daily
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02-28-2011
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
Looks nice, what size are they? Narrow wheels look funny on X's IMHO
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02-28-2011
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
The rims looks good, might look a bit better with a lil wider. I think 9.5" are the perfect size, that's what I wish I went with.
It's hard to tell until you drop the car, I'd assume you are going to drop it a bit at some point. Or you can rock the monster truck style like me
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
What is the stock wheel size on a X?
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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02-28-2011
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
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Originally Posted by goodhart
What is the stock wheel size on a X?
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18x8.5
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I agree with Kracka.
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02-28-2011
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
hmm ok, must be the offset that makes scheides' look so sunken in then.
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02-28-2011
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#38
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
These are 18 x 9.5" Work Emotion CR Kai The outer edge of the wheel lines up almost perfectly with the body line, although I do need some wider tires, they are 245's right now I need 255's or larger. Anyone know if I will have issues with rubbing in the rear?
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02-28-2011
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#39
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
Lomker should know, he runs 265's on his 9.5's. I don't think he rubs.
What offset are you running?
Go 265's if you get new tires, unless it rubs, fill that rim out!
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02-28-2011
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: MAP's 2008 Evolution X GSR Build Thread aka Project GGX
What is the offset? I run 18x9.5 +28 and it's perfect. Anything more aggressive and you'll want to roll the rears. I'm running Star Specs in 265 but I could run a 275 in an NT05/narrower tire.
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