Engine Oil

[Kracka]

LOL @ everyone claiming they have billion times more wear protection. Marketing hype at it's finest. The 3/4 ball wear tests mean nothing, it's a test that was designed for testing gear oil, not engine oil.

(sorry in advance for the goofy formatting, I bolded M1 numbers to make it a bit easier to read)

Mobil 1 10W-30 Amsoil XL 10W-30
Viscosity @ 100ºC: 10.7 10.5
Viscosity, @ 40ºC: 65.3 63.6
Viscosity Index: 154 155
HTHS Viscosity: 3.26 3.2
Pour Point, ºC: -39 -40
Flash Point, ºC: 230 232

When you compare these actual technical specs (i.e. not laboratory tests paid for by Amsoil) you can see how nearly identical these oils are.

[311evo]

Originally Posted by Kracka

LOL @ everyone claiming they have billion times more wear protection. Marketing hype at it's finest. The 3/4 ball wear tests mean nothing, it's a test that was designed for testing gear oil, not engine oil.

(sorry in advance for the goofy formatting, I bolded M1 numbers to make it a bit easier to read)

Mobil 1 10W-30 Amsoil XL 10W-30
Viscosity @ 100ºC: 10.7 10.5
Viscosity, @ 40ºC: 65.3 63.6
Viscosity Index: 154 155
HTHS Viscosity: 3.26 3.2
Pour Point, ºC: -39 -40
Flash Point, ºC: 230 232

When you compare these actual technical specs (i.e. not laboratory tests paid for by Amsoil) you can see how nearly identical these oils are.

Going by these statistics you could claim a certain olive oil was "oh so similar" as well, even though I'm sure some terrible things would happen if you ran that for a second.

If Mobile 1 is so awesome, why do a large amount of reputible builders warn people to stay away from it? Using the "factory fill" excuse is old, Would you use an OEM swaybar over a Whiteline because it was on it from the factory? or would you go with a higher quality product?

Also, why does FP recommend a different oil for use in their turbos then the stock ones? Idk, different bearings. Higher load. The fact that a high performance part may require something different? I have non-oem bearings throughout my entire engine, and that coupled with my cars performance means that I almost have to use a heaver and higher quality oil. It's the same theory. I'm guessing if you call up PTE or Garrett, and ask them "M1 vs Amsoil XP or Dominator" the answer will be the same everytime.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by 311evo

Going by these statistics you could claim a certain olive oil was "oh so similar" as well, even though I'm sure some terrible things would happen if you ran that for a second.

If Mobile 1 is so awesome, why do a large amount of reputible builders warn people to stay away from it? Using the "factory fill" excuse is old, Would you use an OEM swaybar over a Whiteline because it was on it from the factory? or would you go with a higher quality product?

Also, why does FP recommend a different oil for use in their turbos then the stock ones? Idk, different bearings. Higher load. The fact that a high performance part may require something different? I have non-oem bearings throughout my entire engine, and that coupled with my cars performance means that I almost have to use a heaver and higher quality oil. It's the same theory. I'm guessing if you call up PTE or Garrett, and ask them "M1 vs Amsoil XP or Dominator" the answer will be the same everytime.

More facts less hype please. If I wanted to read an Amsoil brochure I would. Whatever it takes to make yourself feel good about spending extra though. Mobil 1 is the easy scapegoat; for reason why see my comment a few posts back. FP's oil PDF is nothing but a temporary fix to get people off Robert's back just like the o2 housing claim and then the oil line claim was.

LOL @ you for trying to call me out for posting actual technical specs of oil. Find me olive oil that has the same properties as motor oil and I'll put it in my engine.

[311evo]

Originally Posted by Kracka

Find me olive oil that has the same properties as motor oil and I'll put it in my engine.

Considering the only "properties" you care about is viscosity, here you go. Looks like Olive Oil would be right around SAE 15.

Motor oil SAE 10
Viscosity
[Pa·s] 0.065
[cP=mPa.s]65

Motor oil SAE 40
Viscosity
[Pa·s]0.319
[cP=mPa.s]319

Olive Oil
Viscosity
[Pa·s]0.081
[cP=mPa.s]81

I'll even supply you with the first 5 Quarts, What brand would you prefer?

(obviously not saying it is super similar to motor oil, but the viscosity is extremely similar. There is a lot of things that matter besides viscostiy, which is my basic point.)

[Febo]

Originally Posted by 311evo

Considering the only "properties" you care about is viscosity, here you go. Looks like Olive Oil would be right around SAE 15.

Motor oil SAE 10
Viscosity
[Pa·s] 0.065
[cP=mPa.s]65

Motor oil SAE 40
Viscosity
[Pa·s]0.319
[cP=mPa.s]319

Olive Oil
Viscosity
[Pa·s]0.081
[cP=mPa.s]81

I'll even supply you with the first 5 Quarts, What brand would you prefer?

Hahaha, are you kidding me?? Olive oil is barely better than a 10 weight oil, and you are trying to claim victory??? GTFO lol