07-09-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard
This is what I was thinking as well, but that wouldn't explain why it wouldn't start on an incline.
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Maybe the incline had nothing to do with it...just random chance that when he rolled it down to flat ground the engine had enough time to cool down by that point.
Did you try any other warm (not hot) starts on flat ground?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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07-09-2010
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#1122
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
scheides: Going back to stock is the last-resort option. I don't see it as anything else.
Kracka/Shawn: I tried pumping the pedal once but not flooring it. The flooding possibility is definitely there given the fuel pressure situation. I wasn't aware that the pressure was so high until I checked the gauge this morning.
Dave, it's a different regulator. It might be possible to buy it and drill different holes in it for mine. I need to call them this morning about that MAF flange anyway (out of stock for two weeks).
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07-09-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
scheides: Going back to stock is the last-resort option. I don't see it as anything else.
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I see it as a great option actually. Sell the (no offense) piece of crap dual pump hangar and replace it with a stock hangar and pump setup. If that isn't enough to keep your surge tank/Bosch fed then add a BAP to it. Simple = good and I bet you could make a lot of money back trading your FB/BO hangar for stock + cash.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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07-09-2010
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#1124
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by Kracka
I see it as a great option actually
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I am stubborn, huh? I get that way about troubleshooting because I also see it as a learning opportunity. I know more about fuel systems than the average Joe at this point. That trait made me pretty sharp in the IT field but it's not always expedient.
Dave, MAP is selling me a bracket for cheap. Hopefully I can affix my regulator to it in some fashion. It should be an easier place to start from, anyway!
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07-09-2010
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#1125
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
I am stubborn, huh? I get that way about troubleshooting because I also see it as a learning opportunity. I know more about fuel systems than the average Joe at this point. That trait made me pretty sharp in the IT field but it's not always expedient.
Dave, MAP is selling me a bracket for cheap. Hopefully I can affix my regulator to it in some fashion. It should be an easier place to start from, anyway!
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Sweet! Copying me huh 
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07-09-2010
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#1126
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Sweet! Copying me huh 
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Just taking your advice. Better write the date on your calendar. lol.
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07-09-2010
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#1127
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
Just taking your advice. Better write the date on your calendar. lol.
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07-09-2010
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#1128
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Re: Evo X upgrades
I didn't realize how tiny the afpr that comes with the MAP kit was...the bracket won't be of any use to me. I am going to have to run the thing over to the space under the conical filter, where I currently have a catch can. That catch can should really be relocated somewhere in the back of the engine bay, anyway...there's just not a great spot for it.
Well, I guess I'll get some opinions at the newb mod day tomorrow. I'm sure there's a spot for it somewhere.
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07-09-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
I know this will make most of you laugh, but I'm proud that I was able to make a bracket for my afpr tonight. Stuff like this almost never works out for me. Dremel ftw.

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07-10-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Good job! If it works, it works! Now just get it powdercoated at Primo and it'll look perfect.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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07-10-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Nice work man! As long as it's secure, that looks fantastic!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-10-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
That's what I'm talking about. Let me see more stuff like that, I'm all about making your own stuff whether it's little brackets or sectioning the shock bodies to lower the car, doing your own fabrication or figuring stuff out makes the car so much more "yours." You'll love it more.
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07-11-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
X2.
Good job that will probably be one of the parts u poit out most now.
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07-11-2010
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#1134
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Shawn is so McGyver that he found a better location and had stuff lying around to make a bracket. In the end one of the fittings that I had didn't 'fit' so the afpr didn't get installed.
Re-wiring the pumps solved the excess fuel pressure at idle issue. I'm assuming it'll be close enough under boost to be tunable. If so then I'll skip the afpr since this is one piece of complexity that I don't like.
The PLX gauge setup blows chunks at this point. It may be another thing that looks pretty but doesn't work. If I go over 5k rpm the gauges freeze up and misbehave. If I'm just tooling around town then they are fine. Spent a few more hours this morning troubleshooting but nothing makes sense. I'm going to check whether they need a firmware update and starting reading the thicker manual. no big deal...I didn't have gauges before. lol.
The fueling situation seems really good right now--no misfires or knock when beating on it. Need to get the car to Shane sometime this week so he can check it out before the 26th. I want to get some laps in.
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07-11-2010
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#1135
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Did some more tinkering with the gauges. The OBD module had a built-in terminator that defaulted to 'on' and was messing up the bus (the modules are daisy-chained). Turning that off totally solved the issue with that gauge. The secondary display module is still flaky but I'll need to do some more troubleshooting...might need to be sent in for warranty repair.
I also discovered that my boost gauge was only going to 18psi. I'm guessing that the vacuum line on the BOV is limited to wastegate pressure...I moved the tap over to the 3port line and it looks good. It's apparent that Shane taps in at that spot.
It's such a novelty to have a car that runs right! I was on the back-roads near my Dad's house (WI)...doing pulls to test the gauges. I'd almost forgot why I bought the car. 
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07-11-2010
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#1136
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
It's such a novelty to have a car that runs right! I was on the back-roads near my Dad's house (WI)...doing pulls to test the gauges. I'd almost forgot why I bought the car. 
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Revel in this and remember it when you think about doing big projects  I LOVE my evo but only when I can drive it whenever I want to! These cars are too much fun to not drive them!
I'm *really* glad you have it in a good spot now man, congrats! Can't wait to see some final dyno plots and pics/vids of this thing tearing up the track!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-11-2010
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#1137
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by scheides
Revel in this and remember it when you think about doing big projects  I LOVE my evo but only when I can drive it whenever I want to! These cars are too much fun to not drive them!
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This should be our creed or something...Too much fun to not drive...I am starting to understand this. I think not driving my car for so long will only make me love it more.
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07-11-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
This should be our creed or something...Too much fun to not drive...
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Should nothing man, this *IS* my creed! Cars were not made to sit on jackstands.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-11-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by scheides
Should nothing man, this *IS* my creed! Cars were not made to sit on jackstands.
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Yea, you are totally right. I have come to realize this.
I didn't really have a choice in my scenario, but it will make me think twice before doing anything again.
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07-12-2010
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#1140
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Glad you guys are coming around 
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I agree with Kracka.
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