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Old 06-23-2010   #1
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This doesn't quite make sense, you saw the CEL?
Don't pretend to understand that. I paused for a moment at the exit for the parking lot and then applied some gas in 1st gear to pull into the street and I saw it blinking. The car was either not rolling yet or just starting to roll when I saw it.

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The latter seems the easiest to me (bribe him with beer)!
He has a progressive double pump (BlaqOPs modified hanger). It's not stock. I'd have to either block off his progressive pump or reinstall the progressive controller on my car. No matter what it'd be a few hours of work and I'd have to have Shane re-check the fueling afterward or I couldn't be sure that it was safe.

I'm getting the feeling that there isn't a long-term solution that doesn't involve a surge tank, whether it gets filled up by the FB or stock hanger.

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AMS doesn't sell their surge tank setup for the X's like the one Gates is using, which is lame.
That's the problem, just like for our intake...they are custom and not for sale. Relatively few companies sell surge tank setups because they're tough to make street legal for crash reasons (the law seems to consider the trunk to be the 'passenger compartment').

Their inline 270lph setup would work but it's only good for the power level that I'm currently running (420-430@DB). You get past a single pump and the complexity gets pretty ugly.

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Don't pretend to understand that. I paused for a moment at the exit for the parking lot and then applied some gas in 1st gear to pull into the street and I saw it blinking. The car was either not rolling yet or just starting to roll when I saw it.



He has a progressive double pump (BlaqOPs modified hanger). It's not stock. I'd have to either block off his progressive pump or reinstall the progressive controller on my car. No matter what it'd be a few hours of work and I'd have to have Shane re-check the fueling afterward or I couldn't be sure that it was safe.

I'm getting the feeling that there isn't a long-term solution that doesn't involve a surge tank, whether it gets filled up by the FB or stock hanger.
Well the shitty part is there is no reason to use two pumps to fill a surge tank, haha.

So maybe take one of those pumps off the double pumper and use it on the surge tank and buy yet another 255 and put two in parallel after the surge tank! Oh boy, this could get ugly

Better yet...trade your full blown hangar for a stock one with stock pump. Then get a surge tank setup with a 255 on the surge tank and a boost a pump on the 255, that is win!

That is what I have been thinking of doing eventually if I start to have problems.
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That is what I have been thinking of doing eventually if I start to have problems.
Well, I'm glad I'm saving you a lot of money. :P This has been suckage for me.

The reason I might keep the FB hanger in the setup is because it has nice AN fittings vs the stocker being plastic. It'd be a single pump in that hanger and then you'd need an external pump (or two) off the surge tank. I'm not sure if a dual external there or a single big pump, like the Fuel Labs models would be the best choice.

http://www.fullblownmotorsports.net/...products_id/94

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Well, I'm glad I'm saving you a lot of money. :P This has been suckage for me.

The reason I might keep the FB hanger in the setup is because it has nice AN fittings vs the stocker being plastic. It'd be a single pump in that hanger and then you'd need an external pump (or two) off the surge tank. I'm not sure if a dual external there or a single big pump, like the Fuel Labs models would be the best choice.

http://www.fullblownmotorsports.net/...products_id/94
AN fittings are nice but end of the day, stock plastic (or whatever they are) fittings have been serving people well for years w/o fail.
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AN fittings are nice but end of the day, stock plastic (or whatever they are) fittings have been serving people well for years w/o fail.
Yeah but I had to cut my stock lines off and the stock hanger doesn't have hose fittings, it uses factory quick disconnects. I'd have to hose clamp my 5/16" lines on there and the stock fittings aren't that big. The stock plastic lines are oddly thin for the amount of fuel that they flow.
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