Why we love Ted Nugent

tpunx99GSX · 04-15-2010

Ok so by crimes you mean violence against other people correct? So you MUST mean Knife attacks. Because no crazy person or bad person with a clean record would ever own a gun, thats only for the upstanding white citizens.... wait... am i missing something?
Stop acting like people with clean records (Non violent offenses include, theft, stealing a car, etc) will not commit crimes that include guns.
There is nothing the government can do to prevent gun violence other than put regulations on ALL weapons. Like i said before, i love shooting guns, but regardless of how many guns i have, if someone wants to shoot me, i will not be able to stop them if they pull the gun first.

**1ViciousGSX** · 04-16-2010

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Ok so by crimes you mean violence against other people correct? So you MUST mean Knife attacks. Because no crazy person or bad person with a clean record would ever own a gun, thats only for the upstanding white citizens.... wait... am i missing something?
Stop acting like people with clean records (Non violent offenses include, theft, stealing a car, etc) will not commit crimes that include guns.
There is nothing the government can do to prevent gun violence other than put regulations on ALL weapons. Like i said before, i love shooting guns, but regardless of how many guns i have, if someone wants to shoot me, i will not be able to stop them if they pull the gun first.

See Tom, you and your way of thinking are what's wrong in America. We have the right to bare arms for sport, self defense of ourselves and our property, hunting, etc. Every natrual born citizen in this country is guaranteed that. But with that right comes the requirement and expectation of being a law abiding citizen. Unfortunately, you can't tell who will become a felon or criminal until they break the law (unless they are a brainwashed Muslim extremist). But since this country has turned into a "nanny" state, it's fair to punish the law abiding citizen while the criminal is breaks the law. Maybe we should outlaw box cutters, aerosol sprays, plastic knives, etc while we're at it.

Bottom line, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

tpunx99GSX · 04-16-2010

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See Tom, you and your way of thinking are what's wrong in America. We have the right to bare arms for sport, self defense of ourselves and our property, hunting, etc. Every natrual born citizen in this country is guaranteed that. But with that right comes the requirement and expectation of being a law abiding citizen. Unfortunately, you can't tell who will become a felon or criminal until they break the law (unless they are a brainwashed Muslim extremist). But since this country has turned into a "nanny" state, it's fair to punish the law abiding citizen while the criminal is breaks the law. Maybe we should outlaw box cutters, aerosol sprays, plastic knives, etc while we're at it.

Bottom line, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

This is really contradicting. If its a Right, then no matter if you are a criminal or not you are allowed the right to own a gun. What you are explaining in the above statement is a Privilege. Privileges like driving can be taken away by the state.
In your thought process Freedom of Speech, the right to pursue happiness, freedom of the press are all rights that can be taken away if you commit a crime.
We can go back and forth on this whole thing. And while you may think my thinking is whats wrong with this country, i believe just the opposite. I believe that if people want to own a gun, a thorough background check, and a MENTAL exam should be a requirement. (which would unfortunately rule out a lot of those retarded tea party members, and most of the south... LOL)

Really, I dont give a flying fuck whether I am able to own a gun or not. Its not something I'm going to cry about, as if there are less guns on the street or in the cities, there is less of a chance of myself or my family getting robbed/murdered by a very dangerous weapon. And while yes "guns dont kill people, People kill people" The gun is a very effective tool at doing so, Ive also never heard of a gun growing legs and running after people shooting innocent citizens, There is always a person standing behind it.
This discussion is just stupid and will never end.

mdost03 · 04-16-2010

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Really, I dont give a flying fuck whether I am able to own a gun or not. Its not something I'm going to cry about, as if there are less guns on the street or in the cities, there is less of a chance of myself or my family getting robbed/murdered by a very dangerous weapon.

A ban on guns will not make it so there are no guns on the street. Like what was posted before, a ban on guns would only affect the good citizens who follow the rules and will not allow them to protect themselves and family in certain situations. If you want a gun bad enough, you will ALWAYS be able to get one, legally or not.

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

And while yes "guns dont kill people, People kill people" The gun is a very effective tool at doing so, Ive also never heard of a gun growing legs and running after people shooting innocent citizens, There is always a person standing behind it.

So is a knife, baseball bat, sledgehammer, chainsaw, car, etc.

Maybe we should ban everything that can be used as a weapon.