wikileaks' pentagon murder video

[joesushi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPr...ature=youtu.be

What our military decides to do with the children makes me sick.

[joesushi]

Cameras are easily mistaken for RPG's, that journalist should have known better. <sarcasm>
And I only see one dude with a lowered AK, anyone else see any more guns? The pilot reports multiple RPG's(cameras) and multiple AK's. This is ridiculous, and the cover up by the military is unforgiveable.

[tehehodi]

I'm not politically active, nor do I ever express how I feel about this stuff. My brother was serving over there during the earlier stages of this war and know how he feels and he's told me things about it. I would rather stay out of this debate but I'll just say,


To all the soldiers who have served over there, Thank you.
(I'm not saying this video is right or wrong nor am I approving or disapproving the actions of the soldiers in this video. I have my opinions and just keeping them to myself)

[tpunx99GSX]

Ugh. Thin line between war and Genocide.

[tpunx99GSX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX_kcPyRw50

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

It's war. Shit happens.

[LingLing]

Originally Posted by kevin 1g drummer

it's war. Shit happens.

+1

[Halon]

Poor judgement surely.

But watching something like that on a video from the comfort of my bed here in Minnesota is quite different then actually being there. So I, unlike some others obviously, don't feel educated or experienced enough in a situation like that to sit here and point fingers.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Halon

Poor judgement surely.

But watching something like that on a video from the comfort of my bed here in Minnesota is quite different then actually being there. So I, unlike some others obviously, don't feel educated or experienced enough in a situation like that to sit here and point fingers.

I do agree with you. The video is incomplete, What needs to be released along with the video is what evidence, besides them gathering in a group, they had that this was a "Known Group of Insurgents". Killing every person that gathers in a group is not right, not should it ever be. Imagine you were in their shoes, the rest of the world decides to invade the US because they didnt agree with the thoughts and ideals of our government, or felt that we were picking on the middle east. Then the rest of the world comes in with their tanks, helocopters and armies, and kills any group of people that gathers with more than 5 people. How would you feel about this? How scared would you be just living your life? This is what is happening over there, regardless of how you look at it. Sure yes there are "terrorists" plotting against the US, But there are just as many people doing the same on our shores. And if the other countries that were "helping" us, accidentally kill innocent people, and consider it collateral damage, how would you feel about this?
Just a little food for thought. I dont want to turn this into a huge political thread again, but sometimes you really need to think about how the other side feels. We have killed so so many innocent people, we will kill more, but are we that decensitized (sp?) about war and violence that the endless killing of Iraqi citizens mean nothing?
Tom.

[1QUICK4]

The difference is we are not targeting innocent civilians on purpose unlike who we are fighting.

Plus the fact that the people we are fighting are dressed as civilians and hiding behind civilians in schools and hospitals doesn't help.

It is sad to see this happen but if you listen to the audio transmissions it sounded as the helis were there to clear the way for the armored calvalrey. If it was me up there and I thought I saw enemeys preparing an ambush I would rather kill them then take a chance with my fellow soldiers lives.


Very sad situation but as said before war is not pretty

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer

It's war. Shit happens.

Originally Posted by 1QUICK4

The difference is we are not targeting innocent civilians on purpose unlike who we are fighting.

Plus the fact that the people we are fighting are dressed as civilians and hiding behind civilians in schools and hospitals doesn't help.

It is sad to see this happen but if you listen to the audio transmissions it sounded as the helis were there to clear the way for the armored calvalrey. If it was me up there and I thought I saw enemeys preparing an ambush I would rather kill them then take a chance with my fellow soldiers lives.


Very sad situation but as said before war is not pretty

I totally agree with both of you. Late 2006-2007 was the deadliest time of the war for U.S. Troops. The pilots seemed like they were very trigger happy.

But,

Around that time there were constantly cerfews all around the country, sometimes for days on end, where they couldn't even leave their own property, and were not allowed to drive cars. The video doesn't mention any of this, but also why would it? The video tries to make the military look like all we did was rape and pillage the poor little Iraqi's. It fucking sickens me to no end that ALL the media ever tries to do is tell the public all the bad things that happen and never one good thing about the war in Iraq. Especially the hippies like Joesushi, that talk all the shit in the world about all the bad things the military has done, blah, blah, blah, but is/was too chicken shit to have ever served himself. I myself am a proud veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, and have seen these things first hand, and that is why I feel this way.

/rant