Evo X upgrades - Page 18

**mlomker** · 03-01-2010

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Originally Posted by goodhart

I ask Shane and other people all kinds of stuff whenever I get the chance.

I agree with that but I've been told different things by mechanics at the local shops as well. There just are no 100% correct answers to anything which is why I have gone with proven stuff (on somebody else's dime) even if it costs more. Saving $150 on this BOV to burn an extra hour of Shane's time wouldn't save me any money.

turbotalon1g · 03-01-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

Perhaps you missed the same answer? I spend every waking moment on the Evo forums and I have *never* heard of anyone using a IX BOV on a X before. I've never seen a IX BOV on a commercial website being advertised as working on a X.

I'll let somebody else pay Shane by the hour to figure out if something is gonna work. Have you seen his rates?

Don't take this as an attack, but sometimes you have to think for yourself.

I have to make/buy a lot of custom stuff because even the universal/DSM specific type pieces don't fit that well.

Plus you can't rely on someone else to do all the hard work.

I have an idea, next time you are looking for something post it up here. I see a lot of people with nothing to do that could help you research but considering using the people here will let you have people that have seen everything worth seeing that Mitsu has built (I hope that made sense).

Again, not an attack just a suggestion. Of course there going to be things 100% specific to the X.

Enough of this BOV talk, when is your dyno time going to happen?

slowbubblecar · 03-01-2010

[QUOTE=turbotalon1g;327510]Don't take this as an attack, but sometimes you have to think for yourself.

I have to make/buy a lot of custom stuff because even the universal/DSM specific type pieces don't fit that well.

Plus you can't rely on someone else to do all the hard work. QUOTE]

He doesn't have much experience working on cars so it is a little more difficult for him. It would probably be somewhere on the same level as you posting a windows 7 question and him responding by saying he has had to fix new bugs on windows 95 that haven't been figured out yet...

turbotalon1g · 03-01-2010

^Hence why I posted the rest of that post so maybe you should of read the rest of it?

And also a reason when I don't understand computer stuff I post up and ask here because I know that plenty of people know about computers here.
Now this being a mitsu site it might be a given we might know a little about mitsu's and maybe some other car shit.

Again, my previous post wasn't trying to be a smart ass I was making an honest suggestion.

**mlomker** · 03-01-2010

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

Don't take this as an attack, but sometimes you have to think for yourself.

I did think for myself and I bought a Coto sports BOV. The mistake that I made was answering Dave's question about the price in public. From now on all of my stuff was either free or stolen.

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Enough of this BOV talk, when is your dyno time going to happen?

Shane will have the car until he's done with it.

**Murlo26** · 03-02-2010

I don't think that price is bad. Evo X shit is pricey, I've come to terms with that, I just don't think DSM guys understand because they can't justify buying a part for their car for that much that isn't necessarily needed. It's much cheaper to mod DSMs and they need to realize you pay a premium for a newer cars mods. Which I'm sure they understand but choose to ignore

**Kracka** · 03-02-2010

I think you X guys are missing the point here. At the end of the day, the X is still a 4-cylinder turbo Mitsubishi, its not like the wheel needs to be reinvented. A little research would have shown the X and IX share the same stock BOV so logic would tell you that you can use the same upgraded BOV's that the VIII and IX guys are using. Why pay double the price just because its a newer car even though its the same thing? That logic just doesn't fly with me, nor will it with the majority of members on this board. We're here, as a board, to help, but when you make stupid decisions we're going to be more than willing to point them out to you. Consider it a learning experience.

I still say sell that over-priced stock BOV to some other newb on EvoM and just crush yours.

**Tachyon** · 03-02-2010

^ Not to mention it's a glorified Dodge Caliber as well:

**Murlo26** · 03-02-2010

^i agree, I'm not defending the choice as much as the price. I crushed mine, I looked into the options. I'm just saying parts are expensive because it's a new car. The decision to buy certain parts is another story.

Anyway, in Detroit now heading Mexico for work. No fun there but hey it's warm

**Murlo26** · 03-02-2010

Those don't look anything alike aside frombeing red...but hey if you say so.

**Kracka** · 03-02-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

I don't think that price is bad. Evo X shit is pricey, I've come to terms with that, I just don't think DSM guys understand because they can't justify buying a part for their car for that much that isn't necessarily needed. It's much cheaper to mod DSMs and they need to realize you pay a premium for a newer cars mods. Which I'm sure they understand but choose to ignore

Of course its cheaper to modify a DSM; they're 20 years old! That doesn't mean a lot of the knowledge that was learned from DSM's, then transferred to the Evo 8/9, can't also be transferred to the Evo X. Parts for the X are no more expensive than they are for the VIII/IX; you may not have as big of a selection yet, but the prices aren't out of line at all. In fact, your stock-frame turbos are actually cheaper. If you also look at it, the parts for the X are pretty much just next generation parts that have evolved from whats already available for the VIII/IX; again, no reinventing the wheel here. It really seems like thus far the biggest hurdle has been getting ECUFlash to work properly, but even so the car has only been out since 2008 which is a pretty damn fast learning curve!

**mlomker** · 03-02-2010

I don't want to look at a crushed BOV when I open the hood. The AMS intake makes the thing very visible whereas the stock intake hid it under the strut tower bar.

If I knew that the Tomei worked then it looks nice but like I said...I've read a dozen BOV reviews on the X and most of them were judged to be worse than stock. I don't self-tune so it isn't affordable for me to buy a bunch of them for testing purposes. This is the one upgraded-spring BOV that somebody has tested and confirmed that it works like it should.

**Kracka** · 03-02-2010

You do realize that a "crushed" BOV looks stock right? Unless you really know what to look for you'd never even know as long as you put a cloth between it and the vice to prevent scratches.

**mlomker** · 03-02-2010

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Originally Posted by Kracka

You do realize that a "crushed" BOV looks stock right?

I've only seen a couple and they didn't look good.

**Tachyon** · 03-02-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Those don't look anything alike aside frombeing red...but hey if you say so.

Actually, the belt line, mirror position, front grill height, wheelbase and fender height, as well as windshield rake all look similar.

But that's to be expected since the Evo X and the Caliber share the same chassis.

As well as the, Jeep Compass, Jeep Patriot, Chrysler Sebring, and Mitsubishi Outlander.

Just an FYI

turbotalon1g · 03-02-2010

I think that I didn't express myself correctly and I apologize.

I meant that you might need to go outside and take a look at it yourself and just think of crazy ideas that you come up with yourself, then tell someone what u came up with and together you can find something effect and cost effective.

Again, I wasn't trying to insult you I need to figure out better ways to communicate my point affectively.

**mlomker** · 03-03-2010

Transferring a couple posts from EvoMN.
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I got a call from Shane this evening and he says my car is mostly torn down. He just needs to remove the oil pump to gain access to the rod bolts on one of the cylinders. I read a thread about this the other day--there is a sprocket that gets in the way.

Tomorrow I'll run to DB over an "executive lunch" and grab my intake manifold and valve cover. I'll bring the BBX and intake manifold to GrimmSpeed for PnP/coating and run the valve cover to Primo tomorrow evening. I'll grab a couple pics of the motor when I swing by DB.

I received the GoPro HD camera today. It's nice and small. I should be able to capture some fun video this Summer at BIR and auto-x events.

**mlomker** · 03-03-2010

Ordered an APR splitter today as well. I'm not sure what else I'll do for the exterior since I don't like how the APR canards look. Their GTC300 wing seems okay.

Interesting that their photos have a MN car, isn't it?

**mlomker** · 03-03-2010

I didn't like the look of the APR canards (looked flimsy) so I ordered the Rexpeed--got a set of the hood dampers as well. The JDM canards that I priced out were stupid-priced for something that might get bashed by a cone this Summer ($600+).

**mlomker** · 03-03-2010

Tear down in progress. I dropped the BBX and intake manifold off at GrimmSpeed over lunch for some PnP/coating.

I had never seen the other side of a valve cover before. Some fancy passageways here. That'll be off to Primo in a few minutes.