View Poll Results: Where do I go from here? (now that all of the children have grown up...)
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Build the X
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No one wants a $60k evo with high monthly payments, get out now and buy a 9.
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02-28-2010
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#161
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
This dyno is stingy
looking like 410 is it
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02-28-2010
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#162
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
This dyno is stingy
looking like 410 is it
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lol, I see you have met heartbreaker.
I have been away from her too long and is why I am struck with fear.
Those are damn good numbers sir, you will be able to kick some ass and take some names with that number.
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02-28-2010
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#163
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Lomker is here distracting Shane with shiny parts
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Sorry about that! I suggested handing over the keys and calling him in the morning but he wanted a few details.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
looking like 410 is it
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I wondered if that'd be the case. It seems that turning up boost often just adds torque on these cars...it isn't going to do much for peak.
It does make you wonder if the dual pump was even necessary, doesn't it? Hard to say. I am curious where your IDCs ended up on the DW1000s.
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02-28-2010
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#164
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
Fixing the boost leaks didn't seem to gain us any power at all. It did help get my loads and fuel tables inline with how they should should be though. In the upper RPMs we have the wastegate duty cycles maxed and boost is dropping, but the power is still climbing at revlimiter. We aren't crazy aggressive with the ignition timing and A/F ratio for now on the E70, the car feels like it pulls hard to redline for an Evo X. I am not sure if the snow tires were hurting our numbers also or not. It does seem to spool a little faster than some of the Evo 8/9s I have tuned with the Red and BBK.
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02-28-2010
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#165
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
We were seeing around 95% duty cycle in EvoScan at 7500RPMs on the 1000s with the BlaqOps. Who knows how accurate that is though, since it's a calculated value in EvoScan, versus a true reading like you have a with a standalone or a Honda ECU. The IDC numbers with EvoScan on the Evo 8/9 have been wildy inaccurate as with some of the DSM loggers.
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02-28-2010
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#166
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
Don't be sad murlo. The car will feel like an animal on the street now, drive it and get some summer tires on it, and lets both get back on the dyno in May @ the dyno day and see how much difference they make. Out of curiosity what kind of rubber do you got on there right now?
Can't wait to see the plots! 410whp on this dyno is awesome power.
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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02-28-2010
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#167
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
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Originally Posted by scheides
Out of curiosity what kind of rubber do you got on there right now?
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iirc Blizzaks. I'll be dynoing mine on Icebears.
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02-28-2010
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#168
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
Drives: C8 Stingray Z51
Posts: 20,620
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
Don't get too caught up in the #'s, its all about the the cars feels and if you're happy with it!
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I agree with Kracka.
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02-28-2010
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#169
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
Well I let er rip on the street some now that my bumper is back on and damn, it feels awesome! I can notice the torque loss barely and spool is noticeable but the top end is great. It pulls all the way to redline and I almost forget to shift. With the stock turbo you wanted to shift at like 5500.
I am very happy with it. I will try a few more things with this setup once the stock clutch gets out of there. I will be upping boost a bit more and probably swapping out the wga for a dom2 one, people have had good luck with that.
But honestly I am very happy with it now. I am getting food now but will post up vids in a bit and post up some comparo's of my turbo against stock/fpred x on a 9 on e85/fpred on x on pump/BBK(schides) shane wanted to see the differences as did I.
Spool is pretty good on this car though I must say.
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02-28-2010
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#170
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
Congrats, wait till all the other fun cars come out and u walk around them you will feel better.
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02-28-2010
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#171
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N17r0U$ br4D
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
^ What he said. Those are pretty damn good numbers and nothing to be that bummed about.
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02-28-2010
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#172
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
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02-28-2010
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#173
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
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02-28-2010
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#174
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
I think with a little work this setup will be solid, I think it's got some more midrange for sure with some 33ish psi boost. Then hopefully with an upgraded actuator i can get some more out of it, running an 18psi one now which might be hurting me, who knows.
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02-28-2010
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#175
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cottage Grove
Drives: Silver '02 IS300, Blue '06 Suzuki SV1000
Posts: 5,293
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
Very nice numbers! 410 at DB is nothing to be disappointed about at all.
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03-01-2010
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#176
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
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Originally Posted by scheides
don't be sad murlo. The car will feel like an animal on the street now, drive it and get some summer tires on it, and lets both get back on the dyno in may @ the dyno day and see how much difference they make. Out of curiosity what kind of rubber do you got on there right now?
Can't wait to see the plots! 410whp on this dyno is awesome power.
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I'm running dunlop wintersports 3d's(i think, maybe it was m3, i got the better ones, which ever those are).
Last edited by Murlo26; 03-01-2010 at 01:49 AM..
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03-01-2010
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#177
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
Boo! Should have made an overlay with my numbers from last summer. I went ahead and did it
Looks a little different eh? This is why I'm curious about the snow tire thing....we'll see!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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03-01-2010
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#178
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
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Originally Posted by scheides
Boo! Should have made an overlay with my numbers from last summer. I went ahead and did it
Looks a little different eh? This is why I'm curious about the snow tire thing....we'll see!
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Did you change anything from the previous dyno to this one?
We looked at what speeds I was reaching on the dyno and the mph were quite a bit less with these tires over my stock ones.
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03-01-2010
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#179
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
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Originally Posted by scheides
Looks a little different eh?
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It's a pretty sweet midrange. Does seem to run out of breath beyond 6500.
Dave could use a set of springs since the Red is still on a roll at redline.
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03-01-2010
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#180
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build
indeed! When does the 4b11 start to run out of breath? I love how fast that turbo spools, can't wait to see a direct comparo to the BBX
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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