T-revzr's Evo - Page 2

**v8klla** · 02-19-2010

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Originally Posted by C3L1CA

I heard only people that want high numbers and consistent comparable results that can't be "fudged" by the operator use a Dynojet

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C3L1CA · 02-19-2010

But how much bigger is the FP Black compared to the FP Red? Do people really need the double pumper with the black?

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Originally Posted by v8klla

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Hmmm, not exactly what I wrote

. But I'll leave it alone since this isn't my thread.

**Murlo26** · 02-19-2010

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Originally Posted by C3L1CA

But how much bigger is the FP Black compared to the FP Red? Do people really need the double pumper with the black?

Hmmm, not exactly what I wrote

. But I'll leave it alone since this isn't my thread.

I am using a double pumper with the red. So yea, you probably need one on the black. E85 is demanding.

t-revzr · 02-19-2010

Well im on E85. I have heard the walbro 255 doesn't really work past 430 whp on a mustang dyno. So if I wanna push my car farther I was told to get a double pumper. Because I guess I would be fine with pte 1000's and a double pumper. Or maybe I'll just get FIC 1250's and run one pump. But if that dont work I could of saved money and not bought the injectors and just bought the double pumper.

t-revzr · 02-19-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

I am using a double pumper with the red. So yea, you probably need one on the black. E85 is demanding.

Ya Im kinda stuck dont know what to do!

**Murlo26** · 02-19-2010

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Originally Posted by t-revzr

Ya Im kinda stuck dont know what to do!

I got a blaqops one, they are real nice, pretty much what all the Evo X guys use. They make them for the 8/9's too.

I would personally get the double pumper and never look back.

At a minimum, with that size turbo you have, you should re-wire your 255 in tank so you can get more voltage out on it. Or as Shane had suggested for me at one point, you could do a KB boost a pump.

I still think a double would be clean and easy, but who knows.

t-revzr · 02-19-2010

KB boost a pump never heard of it?

**Murlo26** · 02-19-2010

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Originally Posted by t-revzr

KB boost a pump never heard of it?

http://www.kennebell.net/accessories...boostapump.htm

It's actually not a bad idea.

t-revzr · 02-19-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

http://www.kennebell.net/accessories...boostapump.htm

It's actually not a bad idea.

Thanks for the info!

**Murlo26** · 02-19-2010

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Originally Posted by t-revzr

Thanks for the info!

No problem, ask Shane about it if you have more questions. I know he is familiar with them.

C3L1CA · 02-19-2010

The boost a pump is a pretty easy way to go really. I make a little more than 500 on just boost at DB on e85, single 255hp, 1600s, stock fuel filter and lines, and a great tune. This is on a dsm, but I would imagine it would transfer over to an Evo the same way. I learned the idea from Shane and I know they (DB) has sold and installed a lot of them. Might be a simple/cheaper route.

I wanna see what this thing can do once its all finished up!

**scheides** · 02-19-2010

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Originally Posted by C3L1CA

But how much bigger is the FP Black compared to the FP Red? Do people really need the double pumper with the black?

FP Black has a 82mm compressor wheel and the Red is a 76mm. Actually, the black has the same compressor as your DSM82 turbo (but in reverse rotation).

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

http://www.kennebell.net/accessories...boostapump.htm

It's actually not a bad idea.

If you max out your pump with thse 1250s, this is the way to go IMHO.

**Murlo26** · 02-19-2010

I think the boost a pump is cool and looks clean. However, the nice thing about the double pumper is you future safe yourself. I think the FPblack will be able to max out the Boost a pump...but I could be wrong.

t-revzr · 02-19-2010

Just got off the phone with Shane. Were just gonna leave it how it is for now. When tuned will go from there and figure out what I should do next.

**Murlo26** · 02-19-2010

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Originally Posted by t-revzr

Just got off the phone with Shane. Were just gonna leave it how it is for now. When tuned will go from there and figure out what I should do next.

That works too. Can't wait for numbers, should be sweet.

**mlomker** · 02-19-2010

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Originally Posted by C3L1CA

The boost a pump is a pretty easy way to go really.

Interesting product but I haven't read about any Evo builds that use them.

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Originally Posted by v8klla

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Consistent or not it does read higher than the other AWD dynos in town. I'm planning to run my car on all of them when my power mods are done...just for giggles.

**goodhart** · 02-19-2010

DB also has Boost a pumps on sale right now Shane said

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Consistent and Comparable to what? Another Dynojet?

Dyno Dynamics are still better from a tuning standpoint, and any dyno can put out huge numers, all you have to do is change the correction

I hope you're not implying that Shane "fudges" the numbers...

**scheides** · 02-19-2010

BAP's have been in use forever and ever, Mellon used one on his evo8 for a LONG time:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/service...-reviewed.html

turbotalon1g · 02-19-2010

BAPs might even be older than evo's!!

DD load bearing dyno = awesome for SD style tuning.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 02-19-2010

BAPs are old. We have to use them on a lot of returnless style fuel systems with a stock fuel pump also, because Walbros often burn up when run on a returnless/deadhead fuel system. Me and Brad use them on our DSMs, Nate uses one on his 700whp Civic and Kiggly uses them or something like them on his 8 second FWD DSM.