Evo X upgrades - Page 5

**scheides** · 01-04-2010

Well that's the beauty of this section! Some post pics of what they're doing, some post thoughts and comments on what they're thinking of doing for their project...then pics come when the parts come in (hopefully) and end result of each component and its impact on the awesomeness of the car

**mlomker** · 01-04-2010

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Originally Posted by Constant_Project21

How about pictures of all this newly installed suspension and what the car actually looks like now lowered?

It looks like crap. 3/4" lower in the front than the rear and sporting snow tires on stock rims. RS installed it that way and the cold outside has overcome my annoyance. I'll probably just wait until spring when I have new wheels...get it corner balanced and leave it at that.

I did post a pic of the adjuster that I spent a few hours fiddling with this weekend. Tonight I'm going to be replacing the fuel line into the rail...not interesting but necessary.

**scheides** · 01-04-2010

They didn't at least install them so they were level? Thats aweful man, no wonder they ride like crap! Was the preload set on the springs at all? Maybe that's why its so bouncy. Coilovers are not just a slap-in-and-go install.

**mlomker** · 01-04-2010

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Originally Posted by scheides

They didn't at least install them so they were level?

I'm afraid not. My big problem was the rear rebound set too stiff but I sorted that one. I don't think these KWs have a preload since you'd need dual collars on the body for that, right? These just have one collar for the height adjustment.

The other reason I've put off fixing the rear height is that I've never adjusted ride height before and I'm not sure if the wheel has to come off to do it right or not. There sure isn't much clearance in the wheel-well area on these cars.

Just something else on the long list of things that I need to learn/figure out.

C3L1CA · 01-04-2010

Yep, you'll want to take off the tire to make changing the ride height easier. You'll probably have to do the process a few times to get it exact, but it'll be worth it.

That's pretty wack that RS didn't ask what kind ride height you wanted and set it to that.

I wanna see what this thing does when that new turbo gets slapped on it, should move out pretty good.

**mlomker** · 01-04-2010

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Originally Posted by C3L1CA

Yep, you'll want to take off the tire to make changing the ride height easier.

I wanna see what this thing does when that new turbo gets slapped on it, should move out pretty good.

Thanks! I have parts on the way for three different days at the shop:

1) ACT HD w/6-puck sprung & Prolite flywheel
2) Cosworth MX1/springs/head gasket, Arp head studs & rod bolts
3) Full-Race tubular manifold, CBRD BB-X turbo

I'll have an o2 bung installed when the downpipe is off, then I'll install a PLX wideband/boost/ODBII gauge setup in an AMI A-pillar.

**goodhart** · 01-04-2010

Wow, I wanna ride in this thing if you come to the Spring Dyno day or cruise!!

t-revzr · 01-04-2010

I thought the new turbo wasn't out yet from CBRD?

**mlomker** · 01-05-2010

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Originally Posted by t-revzr

I thought the new turbo wasn't out yet from CBRD?

You can get it today without the blue anodizing on the wheel (the 'Blue Billet' part of the name). It'll be out any day now. I'll just wait since I've got prep work to do before the turbo goes in, anyway.

t-revzr · 01-05-2010

Thats awesome! this is the new turbo for the upgrade from the bbk full right? Because if thats comin out soon I might as well wait and get that to beat Scheides lol!

**mlomker** · 01-05-2010

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Originally Posted by t-revzr

Thats awesome! this is the new turbo for the upgrade from the bbk full right?

You're thinking of the BBK XL for the 8/9. This is the first/only BBK for the X. They are calling it the BB-X. Not sure why they dropped the 'k'.

It's based on the Dom2.0 that is already available but should have a little more top-end to compete better with the FP Red. Up until now the Doms have done about 450 (on a complete bolt on car) whereas the Reds could do 480.

Isn't the FP Black the big dog for the 8/9's now?

**scheides** · 01-05-2010

CBRD makes a billet 35R (or 3076? I can't remember) compressor wheel, they call it the TAK33R. The numbers out of it have been fantastic, and this BB-X turbo's compressor wheel is apparently based on that compressor wheel, and its rated at 57lbs/min.

Most other EvoX stock-frame turbo upgrades gained power while 'featuring' a loss in torque (vs the stock turbo), even when running E85/high boost. This is detarded to me, as I went from 350wtq to 400wtq when going from an IX turbo to my BBK, so why on earth would anyone want 450whp and only 330wtq? CBRD has said that if a stock turbo is doing ~310whp/300wtq on their dyno (on pump gas), this BB-X will gain 60+whp and 20+wtq. I can't wait to see what actual numbers come out of this turbo.

I just found this graph showing the BB-X holding 30psi perfectly flat until 7500rpm....yummy:

t-revzr · 01-05-2010

Thats what I was thinking but wasn't sure so I had to ask! Cant wait to see what the X puts down!

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Originally Posted by mlomker

You're thinking of the BBK XL for the 8/9. This is the first/only BBK for the X. They are calling it the BB-X. Not sure why they dropped the 'k'.

It's based on the Dom2.0 that is already available but should have a little more top-end to compete better with the FP Red. Up until now the Doms have done about 450 (on a complete bolt on car) whereas the Reds could do 480.

Isn't the FP Black the big dog for the 8/9's now?

**mlomker** · 01-08-2010

The automotive porn has started to arrive. Time to schedule the clutch install--the parts for the other projects will be trickling in for a couple weeks.

turbotalon1g · 01-08-2010

very nice. Long weekend ahead eh?

**mlomker** · 01-08-2010

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

Long weekend ahead eh?

No, I'm not equipped (no garage) and not mechanically inclined enough to do any difficult work. RS Motors will be taking care of the installs.

I'll undoubtedly install the double pump, fpr, and gauges myself over the next few months but that's the easy stuff.

t-revzr · 01-08-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

No, I'm not equipped (no garage) and not mechanically inclined enough to do any difficult work. RS Motors will be taking care of the installs.

I'll undoubtedly install the double pump, fpr, and gauges myself over the next few months but that's the easy stuff.

Nice I will be doin my clutch tomorrow with Ron at his shop all day! Im in the learning process too! I actually get to help pretty damn excited!!! Lol then I drive my car back home and it sits for another 4 months lol oh well...

Ronnie S · 01-09-2010

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Originally Posted by scheides

They didn't at least install them so they were level? Thats aweful man, no wonder they ride like crap! Was the preload set on the springs at all? Maybe that's why its so bouncy. Coilovers are not just a slap-in-and-go install.

Please get the story straight before your comments.
I was ask specifically to get the height as close to factory as possible. The rears worked out fine but the front I can only get to where its at now which is 3/4 lower than factory. I shouldn't have to defend myself but some of these comments are too much. And every single one has no basis but to say something bad about the shop. New year same ol stuff.

**mlomker** · 01-09-2010

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Originally Posted by Ronnie S

I was ask specifically to get the height as close to factory as possible.

Quite true since I didn't buy coilovers for the sake of lowering the car, as most people do. I think it would make sense to adjust the front & rear to the same relative height, though. I'm assuming that it was equal on the stock suspension but I was planning to measure a stock X (maybe your car the next time I'm in) to be sure.

A 3/4" drop will take a little edge off of the 4x4 look while still giving me enough ground clearance to drive without worrying about scraping anything.

**scheides** · 01-09-2010

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Originally Posted by Ronnie S

Please get the story straight before your comments.
I was ask specifically to get the height as close to factory as possible. The rears worked out fine but the front I can only get to where its at now which is 3/4 lower than factory. I shouldn't have to defend myself but some of these comments are too much. And every single one has no basis but to say something bad about the shop. New year same ol stuff.

Umm, you're reading into my comments way too much man. I was completely hypothesizing based on some of his previous comments. Surely you are aware that installing coilovers is not as simple as installing struts/springs and they do require a bit of fiddling, depending on the model. I wasn't there for the install, and Lomker made several comments wondering about the ride quality, and then one of staggered ride height. I was trying to help him troubleshoot.

I got nothing against you or RS, not sure what else to say, calm down