Will my fricken' luck ever change? - Page 4

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 04-10-2009

I would like to thank John for coming by also. He is a great guy to have car problems with.

Swifty1638 · 04-10-2009

maybe it's time i bite the bullet and ditch these 2.7l dodge intrepid coils and get that 300m buschnuts setup..arg.

How can a good ignition company such as MSD suck for dsm's? I don't get it.

-A. Swift

**asshanson** · 04-10-2009

Just mount the stock coilpack under the manifold where the AC compressor used to be and it will look just as clean. I don't understand the need for COP.

Congrats on making lots of power though.

Swifty1638 · 04-10-2009

cop is way cleaner, and I know if it's set up right IS BETTER. And, I can't do that..alt is back there.

A//// Guy · 04-10-2009

Who cares, are you planning to win shows?? Might want to fix the paint issue on the outside first.. thats a bigger issue over a couple wires exposed.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 04-10-2009

MSD is not a good ignition company. They are the WORST. The DIS boxes fail constantly on every kind of car. The circle track guys will wire in 2 6ALs in case one fails during a race.

Swifty1638 · 04-10-2009

hmm...crap. What do you suggest shane, as I did try a STOCK setup last year. What is this other box you speak of?

-A. Swift

mike55112 · 04-10-2009

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Originally Posted by ecoli

The COP systems you usually see on DSMs are cheap junk is the problem. You need good coils and a real CDI behind it like an M&W box. And why do COP if it's still going to run wasted spark. Every DSM COP setup I have had here at the shop has had very sketchy wires running to the coils also. Look at Curt Brown's last adventure to th dyno with a COP on the car.

What about the spark tech kit? I know that the evo's have alot more of a problem with spark issues with the stock ignition and aem. And I know that spark tech cdi kits are very expensive, but thats just part of making good power. Im about to test out the hks dli box cause I have pretty much the same problem on my evo right now but only at 451 on a mustang. Hopfully you can figure out your issue, Heres a link for the sparktech ignition.
http://www.sparktechignitions.net/st...products_id=64

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 04-10-2009

Those Sparktech setups are nice on the Evos, they use an M&W box.

TkrPerformance · 04-10-2009

craig had nothing but problems with is talon with the dis box and brand new cop coils he got from work. the box did not work right and just went out one day. so we put the stock coils back on and got a set of taylor 10.4 wires for it. That fixed his problem he was have it was the same thing that your car is doing.

I would ditch the msd,cop,aem. and go with wires and oem coil and dsmlink

Febo · 04-10-2009

I think you should ditch the COP setup swifty. You have like 8 votes to your 1 vote by yourself suggesting it. You never know, it could be the whole problem. And like Peter said, if your worried about looks you should be focusing on getting your body fixed before you worry about having 4 plug wires under your hood.

Swifty1638 · 04-10-2009

That's not what I'm concerned about. I know they work. It's the fact that WE TESTED A STOCK IGNITION AND IT DIDN"T WORK!

desolate · 04-10-2009

just food for thought

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newb...l-results.html

anyone tried that ignition?

**asshanson** · 04-10-2009

But I thought that's when you had grounding issues. As Josh said, you've checked those things off and not ever coming back to them. Maybe there were two issues, and you've fixed just one.

Febo · 04-10-2009

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Originally Posted by Swifty1638

That's not what I'm concerned about. I know they work. It's the fact that WE TESTED A STOCK IGNITION AND IT DIDN"T WORK!

Like without the MSD and all that? Fuggin weird..... Are you SURE you have all your grounds hooked up :P Maybe add like 15 more.

Swifty1638 · 04-10-2009

shane, wanna revisit the dyno, and try out a stock ignition setup, if I can find one? I wanna put this fucking crap to rest.

-A. Swift

**asshanson** · 04-10-2009

I have two separate sets of good wires you can use, Taylor (RED, they match!) and stock mitsu. I'll bring them to Minneapolis next weekend if you haven't tested anything by then. I don't have a spare coil pack anymore though, I'm sure someone does.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 04-10-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by desolate

just food for thought

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newb...l-results.html

anyone tried that ignition?

People are having all kinds of failures and problems with the ARC-2 stuff.

Swifty1638 · 04-10-2009

..anyone also have that bypass plug for a dis-4?

Super Bleeder!! · 04-10-2009

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Originally Posted by Swifty1638

cop is way cleaner, and I know if it's set up right IS BETTER.

How do you know its better?