What motor would you choose? To put in a Z car.

[turbotalon1g]

^You are a big handling guy. You think that 100lbs weight increase is a big deal compared to the price and reliability?
Found out there is a guy making 700whp on a stock bottom end LS1.
Another guy making 600whp on a 5.3 (cheapest bet).
LQ9s holding 800+rwhp, I wouldn't have to build a bottom end and middle on price.
I wish I had $6k to put a blower on I want to do a KB or whipple I love that sound.

[Kracka]

I sure wouldn't want to add 100 lbs to the front end of a car that wasn't needed as it will have a significant impact on steering feel and handling. Are you building this car for straight line performance, to dominate the twisties, or a combo of both? If the answer is a combo of both then its tough to argue with a forced induction 4-cylinder since they are lighter in weight but still make the power.

[turbotalon1g]

^Yeah, thats what is killing me. I am going for a combo of both.
Cause if I did use a 4 cyl. It would reduce the weight.
But the car would be significantly rear heavy. Is that a big deal?
The aluminum V8 would be near a perfect 50/50

[Kracka]

I didn't realize those cars were so heavy in the rear. Whats the weight difference from a Honda 4-cylinder, a turbo 4G63, and an aluminum V8?

[Halon]

Originally Posted by At-Least-It's-An-Evo

D16y8.

x2
single cam fury!!!!

[4g63tcrazy]

I will say it again.. 2jz. I think that would work out nice for both straight line and twisty's.

[b00stcreep21]

Do you actually have any information, or a logical reason for that statment, or have you just seen F&F one too many times?

[Swifty1638]

hello! it's 2jz-no shyt!

besides being one of the best designed engines in the world, capable of good numbers and good spool time, I also thought the 2jz was a bit on the lighter end..for being a 6-cyl.


I'm voting outta the norm..do an audi 4.2l v8 twin turbo setup, or a ferrari f430 motor? I know you are a baller big brown!

-A. Swift

[turbotalon1g]

Originally Posted by Kracka

I didn't realize those cars were so heavy in the rear. Whats the weight difference from a Honda 4-cylinder, a turbo 4G63, and an aluminum V8?

I have to look it up.

The stock L6 was cast iron and 2800lbs. The LSx weighs 30lbs more because of the transmission and it keeps the weight centered because it is not mounted further forward than a 4 cyl or an inline 6. Once driver is inserted the weight is even balanced left to right with a aluminum V8.

I am thinking aluminum V8 with bolt-ons and either spray or boost.

[turbotalon1g]

I was thinking about an Audi V8, apart from that whole money thing.
I am not in a hurry for this, so I don't care but it does need to achieve my goal of ultimate street car.

[hippiekiller]

sr20, easy enough to find. Make good power. Nissan heritage. And not too terribly expensive. Shouldn't throw the balance off too much either. Might be a bit boring, but it is pretty practical and fits your needs.

[brando]

ls2 w/spray and supporting mods to get it into the car and youll be around the 11.00 range

[turbotalon1g]

^I should be past 11s.
LS2 with boltons would be 11s.

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by carlvr4

my vote would be a vh45de with a single turbo

Exactly. However, I might not even put a turbo on it, just raise the compression a bit and get some cams made. It's got a laundry list of awesome parts right from the factory.

I've been thinking for a while of putting one in a DSM and making it RWD. Would need a decent tranny though.

- Forged steel crankshaft.
- Forged steel connecting rods.
- 6 Bolt main bearing caps with studs.
- Full-length main bearing girdle.
- Lightweight, floating pistons with molybdenum coating.
- Sodium-filled exhaust valves.
- Cross-flow cooling system.
- Hydraulic lash adjusters.
- Single-row silent timing chain.
- Coil-on-plug ignition system.
- Roller rocker arms for reduced friction.
- Variable Valve Timing.
- Redline of 6900 rpm.
- Compression ratio of 10.2 to 1.
- Bore of 93 mm and stroke of 82.7 mm.
- Dimensions: 890 mm(L) x 740 mm(W) x 725 mm(H)

[GSXMatt]

I say 2JZGTE + massive single.

[carlvr4]

THANK YOU! I'm glad someone else understands the badassery that is the vh45de. Plus since it's still a nissan motor the car might not reject the heart-transplant lol.

a z32 trans can be mated to it with relative ease (there are existing adaptor plates on the market). not that the z32 trans is the strongest tranny but it isn't terrible

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Exactly. However, I might not even put a turbo on it, just raise the compression a bit and get some cams made. It's got a laundry list of awesome parts right from the factory.

I've been thinking for a while of putting one in a DSM and making it RWD. Would need a decent tranny though.

- Forged steel crankshaft.
- Forged steel connecting rods.
- 6 Bolt main bearing caps with studs.
- Full-length main bearing girdle.
- Lightweight, floating pistons with molybdenum coating.
- Sodium-filled exhaust valves.
- Cross-flow cooling system.
- Hydraulic lash adjusters.
- Single-row silent timing chain.
- Coil-on-plug ignition system.
- Roller rocker arms for reduced friction.
- Variable Valve Timing.
- Redline of 6900 rpm.
- Compression ratio of 10.2 to 1.
- Bore of 93 mm and stroke of 82.7 mm.
- Dimensions: 890 mm(L) x 740 mm(W) x 725 mm(H)

[munchgsx]

Originally Posted by carlvr4

THANK YOU! I'm glad someone else understands the badassery that is the vh45de. Plus since it's still a nissan motor the car might not reject the heart-transplant lol.

a z32 trans can be mated to it with relative ease (there are existing adaptor plates on the market). not that the z32 trans is the strongest tranny but it isn't terrible

But you can get a LS base LQ4/9 for like 500 bucks with a harness and computer.

[turbotalon1g]

^True that.

Carl do you have any more infomation on it? Cost?
Apparently the motor is pretty wide it would be a tight squeeze.

Not doubted teh badassery of the VH, just the cost and size of me wallet.

[JET]

There is a corvette parts place right up by us on 65, get a C5 drivetrain, use the LS1, have the driveshaft shortened and use the corvette rear mounted tranny

[FattyBoomBatty]

lots of good suggestions, and a few really stupid ones.

You need a v8. Personally, I would stay away from chevy products. If I were doing this, as of right now, I'd choose the 1uzfe or whatever the version of the 4.0 v8 is that's in the 99-03 (or thereabouts) lexus gs400. Even in that car, it feels nice and with 1400lbs less, it would really boogie.

Also, the most important part, they are already rwd.