09-12-2008
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
Well can they? I want to build a street car that can do anything. Had a crazy dream of doing a swap into a diff. car using the 4g63, but with all the work and money i might as well throw an el ess juan into it.
Anywho i guess the question isn't "is it possible" but more of how do you think i can, everyone knows that i am on a budget so no crazy ideas i understand with money anything is possible.
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09-12-2008
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#2
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MN
Drives: four tires
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
Yes
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09-12-2008
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
Of course it is possible.
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09-12-2008
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
ANyone care to elaborate?
Will the plans i have be sufficient?
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09-13-2008
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
My 1G handled like a dream, I had that thing set up well for cornering. I think you'll be extremely happy if you follow through with your DSM plans.
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09-13-2008
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#6
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
I hope so, you don't want to know what i am researching right now, its stupid, well for me to do.
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09-13-2008
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Duluth
Drives: a pos
Posts: 722
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
this is with a 2g. http://www.farnorthracing.com/diary.html Looks like his car and some great driving was doing good on the auto-x course. I would think with some changes it would would tear up a road course as well.
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09-13-2008
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Banned
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: @ The Track
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
I hope so, you don't want to know what i am researching right now, its stupid, well for me to do.
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Coil overs are so adjustable it's ridiculous. You just have to find the tune that works best for you and some FAT tires then you'll be golden.
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09-13-2008
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
Drives: 2003 Evolution VIII
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
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Originally Posted by 95tsi
this is with a 2g. http://www.farnorthracing.com/diary.html Looks like his car and some great driving was doing good on the auto-x course. I would think with some changes it would would tear up a road course as well.
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Street Modified isn't exactly an easy class to compete in, either, so it's awesome seeing that car having done well. Last year the national SM champion (Mark Daddio, now drives AMS' time attack car) drove an Evo with an FP Green, wheels with a crazy front to rear offset (something like 18x10 in the front and 17x9 in the rear) and the other general suspension goodies. Locally the fastest SM car is a BMW 318ti with an M3 engine swapped into it and some meaty slicks. Anything is possible.
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"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." -Mario Andretti
03 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tachyon
Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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09-13-2008
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
I guess i will try it out in the dsm maybe, just hope i can reach my goals with it.
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09-14-2008
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15min late to the world
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
I would talk with the other autocross locals and see what class you would do best in, both with your car and behind the wheel of someone else's ride. I doubt a dsm would come out on top in anything.
~John
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09-14-2008
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Minni-snowta
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
don't forget to add n the drivers skills and experience to the handling equation....
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09-14-2008
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
i don't give a shit to win anything i want the car to be the best it possibly can, and hopefully its on a level with the top players.
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09-14-2008
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Sten Sniper
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Hope
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
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Yes it can, no don't do it. I found automotive happiness (and probably saved tons of money) when I sold the talon and just bought different cars for different purposes.
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09-14-2008
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: North Branch
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
They can but only with the installation of rear drive and a M-Mode button.
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09-15-2008
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Business as usual
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Isanti, MN
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
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Originally Posted by CVD
Yes it can, no don't do it. I found automotive happiness (and probably saved tons of money) when I sold the talon and just bought different cars for different purposes.
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I totally agree. Especially on the money saved part.
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09-17-2008
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
I want to learn to drive too, don't get me wrong but i don't want the car to hold me back or be the weak point.
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09-17-2008
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ham Lake
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
It will take you several of years of racing before the car becomes the weak point. It was the same way racing motorcycles, everyone would focus on tweaking the last HP out of their bike, but it doesn't matter when you go slow through the corners. I was riding an outdated bike and still getting top 10's most of the time. Use the DSM and see what you think a year or 2 down the road. You aren't going to be that competitive in the beginning no matter what you are driving.
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My motorcycle is stock and reliable, my Talon is neither!
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09-18-2008
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Can a DSM seriously compete handling wise with other top cars?
Cool, thanks guys, well i already have the rear sway bar on tap, so i will throw that in and get out there.
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