July 8th: 1st Annual Modern Automotive Performance Proving Grounds

[niterydr]

I can see both sides on this topic.
It sucks but Al does not want anyone profiting on his track.
MAP doesn't want to have to shell out the $2k or whatever to "rent" the track for the day.

In the end, I think a lack of communication and understanding lead to the breakdown of this event.

Has anyone talked to Cedar Falls or Tri-state about track rental?
BIR?
Or as other people have mentioned, cover the track rental and ask for donations incongnito .
Good luck guys, I would have loved to see this event happen.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by niterydr

I can see both sides on this topic.
It sucks but Al does not want anyone profiting on his track.
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Chris told RF that he was willing to give them the profit (if any) they make off the admission price. He is doing nothing to RF except bringing in business and revenue that otherwise wouldn't exist.

[v8klla]

Originally Posted by niterydr

I can see both sides on this topic.
It sucks but Al does not want anyone profiting on his track.
MAP doesn't want to have to shell out the $2k or whatever to "rent" the track for the day.

In the end, I think a lack of communication and understanding lead to the breakdown of this event.

Has anyone talked to Cedar Falls or Tri-state about track rental?
BIR?
Or as other people have mentioned, cover the track rental and ask for donations incongnito .
Good luck guys, I would have loved to see this event happen.

As Hughes pointed out I am not trying to make a profit here, simply get some advertising time and set up an event for our customers and friends. I offered to let him collect and keep all of the proceeds, but he declined. I even offered to guarantee him a certain number of racers and pay the difference in the event that attendance was not up to expectations, but to no avail. And it wasn't necessarily a lack of communication, but a misunderstanding that was not realized until the final written contract arrived.

Oh, and it was $3750 to rent the track

Chris

[curt_gendron]

What a piss poor business decsion by Rock Falls. This will just give them another black eye.

I remember talking to a guy last year that put on my new roof on my house about Rock Falls. He is an old muscle car guy that knows Al for the last 20 years. He had nothing good to say about Rock Falls and the way it is managed. I guess this latest development just adds to it.

later,
Curt

[niterydr]

Originally Posted by v8klla

As Hughes pointed out I am not trying to make a profit here, simply get some advertising time and set up an event for our customers and friends. I offered to let him collect and keep all of the proceeds, but he declined. I even offered to guarantee him a certain number of racers and pay the difference in the event that attendance was not up to expectations, but to no avail. And it wasn't necessarily a lack of communication, but a misunderstanding that was not realized until the final written contract arrived.

Oh, and it was $3750 to rent the track

Chris

$3750, ouch.

I wasn't saying you were trying to make a profit, but I was mearly pointing out his point of view to all the people yelling to "burn him at the stake".

Lack of communication, missunderstanding due to not having anything in writing before planning the event, same deal...the communication lines broke down.

I don't see why he feels threatened about the sport compact days, I mean hell they do have a whopping 6 this year? (pathetic)

Maybe we should get a bunch of the local shops together and put together a MN shootout at a different track this next season?

[v8klla]

Originally Posted by niterydr

$3750, ouch.

I wasn't saying you were trying to make a profit, but I was mearly pointing out his point of view to all the people yelling to "burn him at the stake".

Lack of communication, missunderstanding due to not having anything in writing before planning the event, same deal...the communication lines broke down.

I don't see why he feels threatened about the sport compact days, I mean hell they do have a whopping 6 this year? (pathetic)

Maybe we should get a bunch of the local shops together and put together a MN shootout at a different track this next season?

I agree that the events this year are few and far between. Al shared his thoughts on scheduling with me and informed me that especially in the hot summer months he feels that having too many events would result in poor attendance. I tried to explain that the reason many of us don't attend is that there are too many cars and not enough chances to run, but he is pretty set in his ways.

But yes next year we should arrange something...

Chris