Whatsup From Slowboy??!!!

[MATCHBX]

Mike, I am not condoning anything that Brent has done, but like was said there are 2 sides to every story. I personally do not like men that hit women. As long as there is no provokation. There are some instances that if a woman gets hit, it may or may not be justified. Some woman can be downright dirty in how they deal with men. They know that the man is the one that's gonna take the most heat for hitting them so they provoke them to the point that it would take a tibetan monk not to raise a hand. That article doesn't prove anything about his character. I've met Brent only a few times and I will not say that he is the greatest person alive because I just don't know him. But I won't say he's an asshole either. If it was proved that he did it and was convicted, then yes he deserves to be labled as such. But if there is no conviction and no evidence to prove it, then he is innocent until proven guilty.

As far as peoples complaints on here, I have never ordered from you guys and never will. From the negative press that has been circulating for a long time now, I would never even think to look into your site to buy anything. A business proves it's quality in how it treats it's customers, not necessarily by the quality of it's products. As you said, you have nearly a totally new crew. Maybe in time the "Slowboy" name will get better. And before you lash out at me for not knowing anything about business, I am in charge of the repair dept where I work. There is only me in the repair dept so I have to answer for anything and everything that goes wrong (late shipments, warranty issues, etc.). Keeping the customer happy is my number one priority. I'm not saying you have to give them everything for free. But you do have to be objective in dealing with a frustrated customer because of broken product or failed delivery. The turbo that I saw in those pictures didn't necessarily look like something went through it. If it had, all the fins would probably be mangled rather than one having a jagged break. But neither one of us can diagnose it without having it in front of our faces. My point is, from your posts, you seem to be very quick to point fingers at the other party so you don't have to admit something was faulty on your end. I'm sure with the volume of business that you say you do, it is hard to catch everything that goes wrong. But when it is brought to your attention you need to deal with it in a more professional matter than to basically tell someone to go fly a kite because you're not at fault.

BTW, are you coming to MN for Ojibwe? It's in August. You said you don't get to the midwest but we have one of the premier rally events in the nation right here every year. You haul further to get to the west coast than you would here so it would be a cheaper event. You think you'll be here this August? Of course there's always LSPR in Michigan in October.

[Jakey]

Originally Posted by MATCHBX

Mike, I am not condoning anything that Brent has done, but like was said there are 2 sides to every story. I personally do not like men that hit women. As long as there is no provokation. There are some instances that if a woman gets hit, it may or may not be justified. Some woman can be downright dirty in how they deal with men. They know that the man is the one that's gonna take the most heat for hitting them so they provoke them to the point that it would take a tibetan monk not to raise a hand. That article doesn't prove anything about his character. I've met Brent only a few times and I will not say that he is the greatest person alive because I just don't know him. But I won't say he's an asshole either. If it was proved that he did it and was convicted, then yes he deserves to be labled as such. But if there is no conviction and no evidence to prove it, then he is innocent until proven guilty.

As far as peoples complaints on here, I have never ordered from you guys and never will. From the negative press that has been circulating for a long time now, I would never even think to look into your site to buy anything. A business proves it's quality in how it treats it's customers, not necessarily by the quality of it's products. As you said, you have nearly a totally new crew. Maybe in time the "Slowboy" name will get better. And before you lash out at me for not knowing anything about business, I am in charge of the repair dept where I work. There is only me in the repair dept so I have to answer for anything and everything that goes wrong (late shipments, warranty issues, etc.). Keeping the customer happy is my number one priority. I'm not saying you have to give them everything for free. But you do have to be objective in dealing with a frustrated customer because of broken product or failed delivery. The turbo that I saw in those pictures didn't necessarily look like something went through it. If it had, all the fins would probably be mangled rather than one having a jagged break. But neither one of us can diagnose it without having it in front of our faces. My point is, from your posts, you seem to be very quick to point fingers at the other party so you don't have to admit something was faulty on your end. I'm sure with the volume of business that you say you do, it is hard to catch everything that goes wrong. But when it is brought to your attention you need to deal with it in a more professional matter than to basically tell someone to go fly a kite because you're not at fault.

Originally Posted by S2kracka

You should care because he represented the company and now you should be trying to clean up his mess i.e. SBR's image. Say for example you go to a new restaurant and get a terrible meal. Are you going to steer clear of that place in the future or will you call ahead and ask if a new cook is in the kitchen?

I'll shut up now.

[SBR INC]

Mike, I am not condoning anything that Brent has done, but like was said there are 2 sides to every story. I personally do not like men that hit women. As long as there is no provokation. There are some instances that if a woman gets hit, it may or may not be justified. Some woman can be downright dirty in how they deal with men. They know that the man is the one that's gonna take the most heat for hitting them so they provoke them to the point that it would take a tibetan monk not to raise a hand. That article doesn't prove anything about his character. I've met Brent only a few times and I will not say that he is the greatest person alive because I just don't know him. But I won't say he's an asshole either. If it was proved that he did it and was convicted, then yes he deserves to be labled as such. But if there is no conviction and no evidence to prove it, then he is innocent until proven guilty.

It happened in my brothers house - my GM Jay Copenhaver and former employee Jon Nye were there when it happened. I do not care WHO YOU ARE - you do not hit a woman - under any circumstance - PERIOD.

His entire basement was trashed, holes in the wall, bottles broken in the wall, blood everywhere (not his). You have to be freaking kidding me - and I screwed Brent to huh? He screwed himself.

As for the rest of your email - I am only on through X games for Rally - we may do a rally in Jamaica in late August and another in December.

STPR kicked our but last year - first stage

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

[MATCHBX]

Originally Posted by SBR INC

It happened in my brothers house - my GM Jay Copenhaver and former employee Jon Nye were there when it happened. I do not care WHO YOU ARE - you do not hit a woman - under any circumstance - PERIOD.

His entire basement was trashed, holes in the wall, bottles broken in the wall, blood everywhere (not his). You have to be freaking kidding me - and I screwed Brent to huh? He screwed himself.

As for the rest of your email - I am only on through X games for Rally - we may do a rally in Jamaica in late August and another in December.

STPR kicked our but last year - first stage

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

Like I said, according to the article there was no proof. Only that a complaint was filed. No outcome.

I agree that there is no need to hit a woman. I do not condone it nor would I ever do it. I can see how it can escalate to that though, even with a very mild mannered person (not saying Brent is or isn't). None of us were there to see it so it is your word against everyone else's. I am not getting in the middle of it saying it was his or someone else's fault. Just pointing out that what was posted was not concrete evidence of a crime.

Why are you only doing up until X games? You are missing out on some of the best roads in the US for rally. LSPR (Lake Superior Rally) and Ojibwe are some of the best run events around.

As for the rest of moy post, you didn't address it, but that's ok. I understand.

[SBR INC]

Originally Posted by MATCHBX

Like I said, according to the article there was no proof. Only that a complaint was filed. No outcome.

I agree that there is no need to hit a woman. I do not condone it nor would I ever do it. I can see how it can escalate to that though, even with a very mild mannered person (not saying Brent is or isn't). None of us were there to see it so it is your word against everyone else's. I am not getting in the middle of it saying it was his or someone else's fault. Just pointing out that what was posted was not concrete evidence of a crime.

Why are you only doing up until X games? You are missing out on some of the best roads in the US for rally. LSPR (Lake Superior Rally) and Ojibwe are some of the best run events around.

As for the rest of moy post, you didn't address it, but that's ok. I understand.

It does not need to be concrete evidence - fact is a woman was beat up and she did not press charges - only reason I even emtioned this is I get tired of hearing I fucked Brent Rau - it is just not true - end of story.

I was at LSPR last year - awesome in the UPPIE? We had a blast at the "Dog"..... but not sure we will make it this year.

Depending on how the money is that time of season depends on what we will do(We foot the entire rally bill - and since you will not buy from us we may not have the money to participate).

But - we will be in Jamaica for Rally Jamaica in December - I have two other customers running our motors their - and we had a blast last year.

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

[MATCHBX]

Originally Posted by SBR INC

It does not need to be concrete evidence - fact is a woman was beat up and she did not press charges - only reason I even emtioned this is I get tired of hearing I fucked Brent Rau - it is just not true - end of story.

I was at LSPR last year - awesome in the UPPIE? We had a blast at the "Dog"..... but not sure we will make it this year.

Depending on how the money is that time of season depends on what we will do(We foot the entire rally bill - and since you will not buy from us we may not have the money to participate).

But - we will be in Jamaica for Rally Jamaica in December - I have two other customers running our motors their - and we had a blast last year.

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

The 2 reasons I won't buy from you is the negative publicity and I just don't have a car to build up right now. I understand how tough it is to foot the bill for a rally season. It's a shame you aren't closer to MN, we are having a series of C1's for about $150-200 each. The first one is this weekend and you get 40 stage miles and about 17 miles of transit. No hotel or anything. But you are too far away.

If the reviews start coming in steadily that you guys have truly turned around and started working well with your customers, I may start buying from you. But I would rather deal with someone that has a good reputation in the business rather than a shaky one at best.

As far as women getting beat up, I met my now ex-girlfriend right after she got out of an abusive relationship. She was put into the hospital on the last time and pressed charges. If there were no charges pressed, there must be a reason why. While I agree no man should hit a woman, obviously he didn't just sit there and then out of the blue start wailing on her. There must have been something leading up to it.

[SBR INC]

Originally Posted by MATCHBX

The 2 reasons I won't buy from you is the negative publicity and I just don't have a car to build up right now. I understand how tough it is to foot the bill for a rally season. It's a shame you aren't closer to MN, we are having a series of C1's for about $150-200 each. The first one is this weekend and you get 40 stage miles and about 17 miles of transit. No hotel or anything. But you are too far away.

If the reviews start coming in steadily that you guys have truly turned around and started working well with your customers, I may start buying from you. But I would rather deal with someone that has a good reputation in the business rather than a shaky one at best.

As far as women getting beat up, I met my now ex-girlfriend right after she got out of an abusive relationship. She was put into the hospital on the last time and pressed charges. If there were no charges pressed, there must be a reason why. While I agree no man should hit a woman, obviously he didn't just sit there and then out of the blue start wailing on her. There must have been something leading up to it.

PM sent - that did not need to be on the board.

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.