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Old 04-29-2007   #1
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Re: 709whp from Modern Automotive Performance!

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Why port the head that much if it is going to kill the torque/low end power and still take 38psi to reach 700whp with a huge turbo?



Don't put too much faith in those classes, the tuning theory they teach works great for 1 cylinder engines or engines with a huge window between max power and detonation(like a normal compression all-motor engine), but isn't realistic for high strung boosted cars with 4+ cylinders.
Why port the head that much? No reason really. Trying something "new" for the most part. The fact that it holds power for so long I kind of like though! Maybe we'll do some tests in the future on our staged heads and see what the difference is. Until then, I think our goal is just going to be getting it to hook on the dyno, making a clean pull up to 8500, and then getting it to hook on the track, and hope for a 9.xx @ 14x.

As for putting faith in those classes, trust me, they will just be a first baby step into something I already know a lot about, but haven't actually done. I know fuel tuning extremely well, I understand combustion theory completely, and I like to think I understand timing under boost. My problems lie in things like base maps and low throttle tuning. I would have no problem setting up a base fuel map for an engine, but I don't think I would be comfortable with a base timing map. I know how the old carberated vehicles did it with vacuum advance and I see how the timing curve ramps up with RPM, but I don't know what a modern EFI with a much more efficient combustion chamber and high power should be doing. Time and experience will probably teach me pretty quickly, but until then I will stay away from any timing maps on turbocharged vehicles.
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Re: 709whp from Modern Automotive Performance!

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Why port the head that much? No reason really. Trying something "new" for the most part. The fact that it holds power for so long I kind of like though! Maybe we'll do some tests in the future on our staged heads and see what the difference is. Until then, I think our goal is just going to be getting it to hook on the dyno, making a clean pull up to 8500, and then getting it to hook on the track, and hope for a 9.xx @ 14x.
No offense, but hooking on the dyno?? Who gives a shit how it hooks on the rollers. You have been hanging out on TCS too long.

Lets get that tq number up a bit and make it to a track outing. Lets see some real track numbers, if I wanted to see some bench racing I would look elsewhere.

Dont get me wrong, you need to figure out your 'stages' but why post about them when you havent figured them out yet?


Again, nice car and great numbers, lets just not jump the gun here.
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