Hello

[DB Performance]

Thanks for the interest. No offense taken Jakey, I will get to that in a moment. Good question though. DB Performance is pretty well known in the Mustang world and a few select imports and other domestics alike. I was Brent Rau's crew chief for the 2004 NOPI season. So I have had some hands on with a fast DSM. DB Performance has been located in a shop on private property for over 3 years. Never in Lorreto and I have never dyno'd at High Tech. Up until now I have always dyno'd and tuned at Elite. Mo and I have a great friendship and business relationship. As stated before we are moving into a new location in the heart of Rogers. 4 right turns off of I-94 and you'll be at our door. Now to answer your question Jakey, I have teamed up with Shane Ziegler/ecoli to bring this new venture to the Twin Cities. As most of you know, Shane is a very good tuner with a highly valued reputation. I haved followed many threads and have seen the concern when people relized he had left Elite. Well, Shane is available for all your tuning needs on our new/slightly used Dyno Dynamics AWD dyno. We are shooting to be open for business by the 15th of March. Please feel free to contact myself (Dan) or Shane if you have any questions or concerns. Please stay tuned and we will keep everyone updated on the progress and opening date should anything change.
Thank you all for the warm welcome and we look forward to working with you all in the future.

Dan / Shane

[rst95eclipse]

I wish you the best of luck in your venture. I'll probably come up to check you guys out in the summer.

On a different note, are you the guy from Stewartville, MN that was on Rau's squad?

[Jakey]

Originally Posted by DB Performance

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Awesome!

[TalonFiero]

Dan welcome to the site, glad to hear you brought Shane on board. I will definitely check out the new place once you guys are up and running at the new location.

Jim

[niterydr]

Originally Posted by DB Performance

Thanks for the interest. No offense taken Jakey, I will get to that in a moment. Good question though. DB Performance is pretty well known in the Mustang world and a few select imports and other domestics alike. I was Brent Rau's crew chief for the 2004 NOPI season. So I have had some hands on with a fast DSM. DB Performance has been located in a shop on private property for over 3 years. Never in Lorreto and I have never dyno'd at High Tech. Up until now I have always dyno'd and tuned at Elite. Mo and I have a great friendship and business relationship. As stated before we are moving into a new location in the heart of Rogers. 4 right turns off of I-94 and you'll be at our door. Now to answer your question Jakey, I have teamed up with Shane Ziegler/ecoli to bring this new venture to the Twin Cities. As most of you know, Shane is a very good tuner with a highly valued reputation. I haved followed many threads and have seen the concern when people relized he had left Elite. Well, Shane is available for all your tuning needs on our new/slightly used Dyno Dynamics AWD dyno. We are shooting to be open for business by the 15th of March. Please feel free to contact myself (Dan) or Shane if you have any questions or concerns. Please stay tuned and we will keep everyone updated on the progress and opening date should anything change.
Thank you all for the warm welcome and we look forward to working with you all in the future.

Dan / Shane

Good deal. I was just inquiring as that is what I've heard, thanks for squashing the rumors.
Great choice on hiring Shane, he is a very well respected tuner thru-out the import and Minnesota scene in general.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Originally Posted by niterydr

Great choice on hiring Shane, he is a very well respected tuner thru-out the import and Minnesota scene in general.

I am co-owner of the shop now.

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

I think he is referring to the people tuning them more so than the machine they are on. In my opinion given that they are the same machine basically, I will wager the difference will be whomever can tune cars better will have the better numbers.

I usually don't try to push cars to the absolute edge though. I would rather give up 5 or 10 whp instead of having the car blow up when a little bad gas gets in the tank or some other variable changes. Things aren't too bad to control on a DSM though, it isn't like most turbos Hondas that have no usable knock sensor to try to save the motor if something goes wrong down the road. A lot of the turbos cars I deal will have at least 1 cylinder go into detonation before MBT is reached, so you can't rely on there being any sort of window between max torque and detonation onset, like you can with an NA car.

[niterydr]

Originally Posted by ecoli

I am co-owner of the shop now.

Awesome news!

Originally Posted by ecoli

I usually don't try to push cars to the absolute edge though. I would rather give up 5 or 10 whp instead of having the car blow up when a little bad gas gets in the tank or some other variable changes. Things aren't too bad to control on a DSM though, it isn't like most turbos Hondas that have no usable knock sensor to try to save the motor if something goes wrong down the road. A lot of the turbos cars I deal will have at least 1 cylinder go into detonation before MBT is reached, so you can't rely on there being any sort of window between max torque and detonation onset, like you can with an NA car.

I agree, its not worth pushing a car to the absolute limit unless its in a very controlled environment with support (aka track car).