Waiting for new turbo, etc.

**1ViciousGSX** · 03-29-2005

Well the car is down. I sold all my old set-up (turbo, manifold, wastegate, O2 housing & downpipe). My new parts are being built at this time. Should have them in a few weeks.

Mo powa, mo powa, mo powa.

If everything works out correctly, should be hitting 600+ awd whp.

Quite a nice step up from the estimated 450+ awd whp I was hitting before.

This should put me right where I want to be. It should be really fun to drive (not that it wasn't already). I could have went with a bigger turbo for more power, and lost some of the driving pleasure. But this has always been my goal, at least for now anyways. A super nice, full weight, well into the 10 sec zone, 2g GSX street car with lots of torque.

Who knows, maybe one day I'll want to insert "well into the 9 sec zone" in that last sentence.

**Kracka** · 03-29-2005

Remove some weight so its a "A super nice, lighter weight, well into the 10 sec zone, 2g GSX street car with lots of torque."

**1ViciousGSX** · 03-29-2005

Yeah, weight is a problem. Not much can be done without taking away from the "super nice" part of the car. I am exploring some options to help it, but nothing in the immediate future.

**Kracka** · 03-29-2005

Bumper supports and small battery.

**1ViciousGSX** · 03-29-2005

2g's don't have the heavy bumper supports like 1g's. I've already got the small battery to clear my UICP at the throttle body.

Jakey · 03-30-2005

Who did you end up ordering your GT35R through, PTE or FP? Which tubular manifold did you end up deciding on?

-Definitely time for a carbon fiber hood and driveshaft.

**1ViciousGSX** · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by Jakey

Who did you end up ordering your GT35R through, PTE or FP? Which tubular manifold did you end up deciding on?

-Definitely time for a carbon fiber hood and driveshaft.

Didn't get the GT35R

. Got something a little bigger. Had something custom spec'ed for my set-up through Innovative Turbo with help from Scott @ VPE. No, I can't say what it is yet. It's a secret

. If it works as well as we feel it will, Scott will start marketing the turbo through his site. It will flow 70+ lb/min and should hit full boost by 4400-4500 rpm. VPE is starting to build tubular manifolds for DSM's. I've had a long time working relationship with Scott. Scott called me up in the middle of me lining up my parts and told me about his new connection with Innovative Turbo. He basically made me an offer that was too good to pass up on the complete package (manifold, turbo, wastegate, O2 housing, down pipe, etc.). As far as the manifold goes, if I don't like it, or it doesn't work well, Scott said he would take it back, with no problems.

Onefast99gsx · 03-30-2005

1Vicisous- Where are you planning on racing your car at?

**1ViciousGSX** · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx

1Vicisous- Where are you planning on racing your car at?

Anywhere that will let me

. I have been thinking about making the trip to the DSM Shoot-out, but David Buschur posted "Only 4g63 powered vehicles will be allowed to race." I haven't gotten clarification if a 4g64 will be allowed.

**JET** · 03-30-2005

Yeah, 4G64 is no problem. I hope to see you there!

Jakey · 03-30-2005

You should come up to AMS' Midwest Mayhem or the Midwest meet @ Tri-State Raceway this Fall.

97GSXAWD · 03-30-2005

So what is your new wastegate configuration going to look like? Gate on the manifold or on the o2 housing kind of like your old one? Just curious cause I am in love with the FP housing but I want something bigger than a 3065 and BB unlike the 3575. If I can find a wastegate setup that I really like it will open up my options a little more.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 03-31-2005

Anything bigger than a 3065 starts maxing out every other parts on the car that you normally don't have to worry about.

97GSXAWD · 03-31-2005

well right now I have Mike building me a 2.4 and i don't plan on having any bottlenecks in my car. When the car gets its first start-up it will have a ported head, crower 414s, magnus manifold ect. to make sure there will be enough room for the engine to breate. So hopefully i will have all the other parts covered and i won't have to worry about them. I do see where your coming from though.

Jakey · 03-31-2005

Are you still planning on running 3" exhaust or upgrading to 3.5"? Are you going to run external, internal, or "swap-able" gate like what FP has available? Does your Magnus intake manny seem to be holding up fine? Sticking with the 272s or upgrading to the FP4s? I still think you should call up PST and have them build you a carbon fiber driveshaft.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 03-31-2005

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Originally Posted by 97GSXAWD

well right now I have Mike building me a 2.4 and i don't plan on having any bottlenecks in my car. When the car gets its first start-up it will have a ported head, crower 414s, magnus manifold ect. to make sure there will be enough room for the engine to breate. So hopefully i will have all the other parts covered and i won't have to worry about them. I do see where your coming from though.

Those are the normal parts that you upgrade with any turbo. I am talking about stuff like needing multiple fuel pumps or a big external pump that burns out if you drive on it for too long, upgrading the fuel lines starting from the pump onward, a clutch that can hold the power, a 2600 isn't going to cut it, axles, backup trannies and transfercases, a 3.5" exhaust, 3" intercooler piping, a huge FMIC, motor mounts, external oil cooler, 900cc+ injectors, bigger throttlebody, something decent to tune the car with, etc. Most people don't make full use of the potential of 61mm turbos like the FP3065. Going to a turbo like the FP3575 that flows 10 lbs/min more and is a fair amount laggier isn't the best route. FP has made FP3565s, which would have a bit more power potential than a 3065. How much power are you trying to make?

97GSXAWD · 03-31-2005

I have taken into account all of those other factors but i just didn't mention them. I am planning on running 1000cc injectors, dsmlink, my tranny is going to go to shep at some point,SBR front mount, clutch wise Mike said a suthbend would work and I was planning on having a full stainless fuel system tank to regulator and possibly even the return line. I understand that its a laggy turbo and that it is made for big power I was hoping to be somewhere in the 6-675hp range with spool in the mid 4K range or a little higher. I know the 3065 can make that number but I am afraid of getting way to close to its max effeciency. I figured if I go with something like the 3575 I would still have room to improve later on should I decide to. I don't want you to think that I am one of those people that thinks he can just throw a turbo on the car and it'll be fast I have been doing my research over the last 4-5 months as to what all is going to be going into this car and thats another reason why it won't be running until next year. I won't have the money for everything that is needed and I know that its going to be a lot to maintain but im okay with that.

**1ViciousGSX** · 03-31-2005

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Originally Posted by 97GSXAWD

So what is your new wastegate configuration going to look like? Gate on the manifold or on the o2 housing kind of like your old one? Just curious cause I am in love with the FP housing but I want something bigger than a 3065 and BB unlike the 3575. If I can find a wastegate setup that I really like it will open up my options a little more.

Manifold mounted wastegate (Tial 44mm v- band) fed into the down pipe.

**1ViciousGSX** · 03-31-2005

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Originally Posted by Jakey

Are you still planning on running 3" exhaust or upgrading to 3.5"? Are you going to run external, internal, or "swap-able" gate like what FP has available? Does your Magnus intake manny seem to be holding up fine? Sticking with the 272s or upgrading to the FP4s? I still think you should call up PST and have them build you a carbon fiber driveshaft.

Sticking with 3 inch exhaust for now. External gate. Magnus SMIM working fine. 272's are working fine, if bigger is needed, maybe a swap down the road. I should be at my "Goal" for the car with my new set-up. Anything above or beyond that would be "Gravy". As Shane mentioned, the power levels I'm moving up to will take their tole on the rest of the car and cross over into the "It could start breaking parts" area. I'm easy on my launches, so hopefully there won't be any problems for me. I have spent my money in the right places on the car to help with durability. Some form of weight reduction will hopefully come about, don't know how much though. Can you get me a price on the CF driveshaft?

Jakey · 03-31-2005

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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Sticking with 3 inch exhaust for now. External gate. Magnus SMIM working fine. 272's are working fine, if bigger is needed, maybe a swap down the road. I should be at my "Goal" for the car with my new set-up. Anything above or beyond that would be "Gravy". As Shane mentioned, the power levels I'm moving up to will take their tole on the rest of the car and cross over into the "It could start breaking parts" area. I'm easy on my launches, so hopefully there won't be any problems for me. I have spent my money in the right places on the car to help with durability. Some form of weight reduction will hopefully come about, don't know how much though. Can you get me a price on the CF driveshaft?

Yeah I need to call PST anyways so I'll ask them next time I speak with them, probably early next week.