MitsuStyle MitsuStyle

Go Back   MitsuStyle > Tech > Turbo / Engine / Drivetrain

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-13-2010   #1
way2fastalon
IS Broken :-/
 
way2fastalon's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2009
Location: crookdale
Drives: 91 Talon awd /90 laser rsT
Posts: 431
Send a message via ICQ to way2fastalon Send a message via AIM to way2fastalon
how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

so we were driving along and and its making the usual 1g lifter tick and something else starts making noise were like what is that i thought it was a bad rocker but the engine ran fine ... but then... we tried to limp it home and it quit running ..
__________________

1991 Eagle Talon awd
2.0 fully built lower-end
wiseco/eagle rods / crank 9:0:1
dsmlink v.2.5 fp race mani 880cc injectors w255
hx35/bep/maperformance o2 with dump
+more mods to list

way2fastalon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010   #2
turbotalon1g
 
turbotalon1g's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
Send a message via AIM to turbotalon1g
Re: how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

I'm assuming the dowels that the gears slide onto. My guess is that they were improperly installed.
__________________
Aaron/brownman/big brown.
'91 Automagic.
'02 Z06
Please leave feedback - http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/itrader.php?u=58309
turbotalon1g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010   #3
Kracka
R U DTF bro?
 
Kracka's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
Drives: C8 Stingray Z51
Posts: 20,620
Re: how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

Dowel pins are just for alignment when installing, if the cam gear bolts are properly torqued they are not needed to keep the cams in time. A snapped one could be a number of things including improper installation of the pin, improper installation of the cam gear on the camshaft, an incorrectly torqued cam gear bolt, or just a defective pin from the get-go. If a stock pins fails after 20 years though, that could just simple be fatigue.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murlo26 View Post
I agree with Kracka.
Kracka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010   #4
4g63tcrazy
is Nashty
 
4g63tcrazy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Stillwater
Drives: Cyborg from Japan
Posts: 2,080
Re: how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

must not have torqued the cam gear bolt down all the way and the gear spun on the cam and snapped it.
__________________
-1990 Mitsubishi Cyborg 4WD-
4g63tcrazy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010   #5
way2fastalon
IS Broken :-/
 
way2fastalon's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2009
Location: crookdale
Drives: 91 Talon awd /90 laser rsT
Posts: 431
Send a message via ICQ to way2fastalon Send a message via AIM to way2fastalon
Re: how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

ill take some pictures ... sounds like all valves on the exhaust side are done ... no compression btw this engine has 250,000 miles on it with regular oil changes with mobile 1 syn 15w40 i was hoping to make it to 300,000 on it before something went wrong .. lol
__________________

1991 Eagle Talon awd
2.0 fully built lower-end
wiseco/eagle rods / crank 9:0:1
dsmlink v.2.5 fp race mani 880cc injectors w255
hx35/bep/maperformance o2 with dump
+more mods to list


Last edited by way2fastalon; 07-13-2010 at 10:45 PM.. Reason: sticky mouse
way2fastalon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010   #6
mlomker
*Resting In Peace*
 
mlomker's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
Re: how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by way2fastalon View Post
this engine has 250,000 miles on it
Is that all? I thought my beater at 150 was doing well.
mlomker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2010   #7
CarPsyco84
 
CarPsyco84's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Coon Rapids
Drives: 07' Z06, 16' Beta 300RR
Posts: 804
Re: how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by way2fastalon View Post
ill take some pictures ... sounds like all valves on the exhaust side are done ... no compression btw this engine has 250,000 miles on it with regular oil changes with mobile 1 syn 15w40 i was hoping to make it to 300,000 on it before something went wrong .. lol
Camshaft could have seized too, hard to tell exactly till its all apart. Then its usually painfully obvious.
__________________
-When in doubt, Moar RPM.
CarPsyco84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2010   #8
way2fastalon
IS Broken :-/
 
way2fastalon's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2009
Location: crookdale
Drives: 91 Talon awd /90 laser rsT
Posts: 431
Send a message via ICQ to way2fastalon Send a message via AIM to way2fastalon
Re: how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

here are the pictures

Click image for larger version

Name:	Photo0012.jpg
Views:	209
Size:	730.2 KB
ID:	10370

Click image for larger version

Name:	Photo0013.jpg
Views:	214
Size:	587.1 KB
ID:	10371

Click image for larger version

Name:	Photo0011.jpg
Views:	213
Size:	873.1 KB
ID:	10372
__________________

1991 Eagle Talon awd
2.0 fully built lower-end
wiseco/eagle rods / crank 9:0:1
dsmlink v.2.5 fp race mani 880cc injectors w255
hx35/bep/maperformance o2 with dump
+more mods to list

way2fastalon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2010   #9
Pushit2.0
15min late to the world
Re: how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

The cam bolt loosened up, if the bolt is torqued properly it is the friction surface of the cam gear and cam that keep everything in line. This is a case of if you have an engine still running after the factory warranty or a ton of miles it might be a good idea to check everything over.

~John
__________________
Moon taxi: 9.45@156.9 mph 41psi 2011... Letting people down sense 2012.
Pushit2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2010   #10
way2fastalon
IS Broken :-/
 
way2fastalon's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2009
Location: crookdale
Drives: 91 Talon awd /90 laser rsT
Posts: 431
Send a message via ICQ to way2fastalon Send a message via AIM to way2fastalon
Re: how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

the funny thing is the cam's where never touched ... all stock just did the t belt changes every 30,000
__________________

1991 Eagle Talon awd
2.0 fully built lower-end
wiseco/eagle rods / crank 9:0:1
dsmlink v.2.5 fp race mani 880cc injectors w255
hx35/bep/maperformance o2 with dump
+more mods to list

way2fastalon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2010   #11
santa
Boost Spike
 
santa's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cottage Grove
Drives: 93 talon Automagickinda....
Posts: 1,116
Send a message via AIM to santa
Re: how do cam shaft dowl pins snap .. ?

No red lock tight used on cam bolt ftl!!
__________________
91 gsx: 734awhp 593ft lbs, best et 10.4@141, @35psi 1.6 60' 2010
93 Talon: 2011 season: Auto, 8.50 cage, For sale!!! $7500
santa is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.