PG 2013 - Can we get some love here?

[Shane@DBPerformance]

The H-pattern stuff would probably need to be changed, those kinds of rules were usually used to keep people from running crazy true sequential tranny setups on older cars like Hondas, DSMs and Supras. Which probably nobody around here or at PG would have anyways, but you would want to be able to allow the GT-R, Evo X MR, and DSG cars.

[bramagedained]

Well, from that one post of rules here, I like that there's a True Street. Last year me, Troy and I think a couple other guys ended up in the BECAUSE RACECAR class due to having 6466's in what were otherwise full weight street cars.

I don't see why mechanical fuel pumps would be a no-go for TS either since you're still limited by turbo size anyway. I don't have or plan on having one, I just don't understand the point of this rule.

No superchargers on 6cyls seems a bit odd for RS/TS, the only 6s that I see supercharged are the occasional 350z/370z and they wouldn't be at some massive advantage because of it

[Shane@DBPerformance]

If the rule for a class says only 4 cylinder cars, then it isn't that hard, there doesn't need to be special rules for a 4 cylinder Cavalier vs a Honda. In Nate's rules, only the Outlaw class allowed 8 cylinder cars and their were some rules for max displacement, tire sizes, and turbo size limits.

[Tachyon]

Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance

If the rule for a class says only 4 cylinder cars, then it isn't that hard, there doesn't need to be special rules for a 4 cylinder Cavalier vs a Honda. In Nate's rules, only the Outlaw class allowed 8 cylinder cars and their were some rules for max displacement, tire sizes, and turbo size limits.

Agreed. Perhaps a displacement modifier would work such as Forced Induction = your displacement*2. Max adjusted displacement of 7600 cc or the like.

Having attended every PG from the start, I think I can state without fear of contradiction, that a vast majority of the imports that compete in the drag would get their lunch eaten by a properly sorted V8 on tires, if this went down straight up.

[turbotalon1g]

Slick size should be 26" that seems to be a common height, not 25".

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Outlaw says 26". 25" limit is probably to keep people from running 26" slicks. 24.5" slicks are commonly used and often the limit for many import race classes.

[turbotalon1g]

^Most likely for Hondas. Most DSMers run 26"

[URV8SUX]

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

Slick size should be 26" that seems to be a common height, not 25".

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

^Most likely for Hondas. Most DSMers run 26"

Most Hondas that race follow other classes like IFO, WCF, and National events and with a 67mm or smaller turbo they have max tire of 25". I'd bet that 99% of DSM's dont run slicks that have a 67mm or smaller turbo!

IE hoosior QTP, M&H cheaters slicks, ET streets, and other drag radials (DOT tire) are not slicks.

[turbotalon1g]

Originally Posted by URV8SUX

Most Hondas that race follow other classes like IFO, WCF, and National events and with a 67mm or smaller turbo they have max tire of 25". I'd bet that 99% of DSM's dont run slicks that have a 67mm or smaller turbo!

IE hoosior QTP, M&H cheaters slicks, ET streets, and other drag radials (DOT tire) are not slicks.

You could say the same thing about honda's with a nice broad statement like that.
But actually most of the decent cars i see on slicks are on 14bs, 16gs, 3052s and now 35R/62mm setups with a few on 67mms now and of course the legendary GT42RRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Wait! You are saying there are cars besides DSMs and they run real race classes?

[turbotalon1g]

Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance

Wait! You are saying there are cars besides DSMs and they run real race classes?

No, I'm saying I don't give a shit what they can fit on economy cars, and DSMs like tall tires for gearing and I don't care to spend money on a smaller slick.

[niterydr]

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

No, I'm saying I don't give a shit what they can fit on economy cars, and DSMs like tall tires for gearing and I don't care to spend money on a smaller slick.

Aren't DSMs considered "economy race cars" ?

[Halon]

Would a 62.99mm turbo still qualify as 62.9 max?

[URV8SUX]

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

You could say the same thing about honda's with a nice broad statement like that.
But actually most of the decent cars i see on slicks are on 14bs, 16gs, 3052s and now 35R/62mm setups with a few on 67mms now and of course the legendary GT42RRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I guess you just dont see the point......
I think the rules are fair for fwd/awd/rwd cars and will keep the classes close and conpetative!

If these were the rules simply move up to a class that allows 26" slicks if that's what you run.

Originally Posted by Halon

Would a 62.99mm turbo still qualify as 62.9 max?

Yeah I'd say so.

[Halon]

Nice, was curious in case I upgrade my 84-75 to the 88-75 at some point.

[turbotalon1g]

^you said it. RACE CAR!

[munchgsx]

I don't think much will change from last year, other than adding modern muscle classes and rules. Plus setting up some sort of import vs. domestic just for fun.

[turbotalon1g]

My eagle is a domestic!!

[munchgsx]

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

My eagle is a domestic!!

Then compete against the imports.

[Murlo26]

Originally Posted by munchgsx

Then compete against the imports.

well said lol

You are even auto like a lot of them Aaron.