MAP Proving Grounds Event @ BIR / Feedback and Discussion

[scheides]

My input: don't have it on a weekend around July 12th. It's Anna's bday and I didn't get to go.

[v8klla]

Updated, keep em coming!

[turbotalon1g]

lol or my bday august 25th. I would skip a drill weekend to go.

[curt_gendron]

I'd like to say thanks to MAP for putting on this event. I had a great time, even with the light attendance numbers. Here are some of my ideas:

1) Don't beat yourself up over finding a free weekend to do this. You can't find one. Summer is too short. Just don't overlap any major events. HIN in Chicago is not one of them for MN residents.

2) Need a booth for information. The person at the booth should be fully informed of everything going on.

3) Hand out a schedule of events when you first get there. Put times and as much detail as you can. Then make sure to stick to the schedule.

4) I think Friday/Saturday worked okay, but obviously Sat/Sun would be even better.

5) Don't have the competition parts overlap. Obviously time trials will overlap. Just stagger the finals of the different events, and put that on the nice schedule you'll be handing out.

6) There should be some kind of awards ceremony at the end. And at the very least you should post the winners on MitsuStyle since know one knows I took best Jap car at the car show.

Thanks,
Curt

[john]

Allow sports cars..... This would create significantly more interested people. I suppose the reason it was a SC day was so imports had their day to be together without the heckeling????

I am sure several import owners would like to leave the event saying "I beat a viper/vette/cobra/etc in the 1/4 with my $7,000 car"....

I know you were trying to make it specialized but you cut out a large segment of auto enthusiests.

What is the definition of a "Sport Compact Car" anyhow??

[john]

Other reccomendation: Add road racing.

[v8klla]

We're definitely looking into the road racing, but I don't think BIR will be opening it up to all sports cars in the future They are specifically targeting the sport compact market to bolster attendance at their other events and make sure that everyone in said market knows they are welcome...

[Halon]

There was a C6 running, a V8 GM powered Porsche, a Grand Prix, a Grand Am. What is the criteria exactly?

[v8klla]

Your guess is as good as mine lol, feel free to pose that question to BIR: bill.johnson@brainerdraceway.com

[slowbubblecar]

I sent an email to him requesting their criteria. Will post when I hear back.

[TalonFiero]

No offense but isn't a corvette and 3S basically the same GT Touring Sports car category?

Grand Prix's are not sport compacts, but they get let in because they are FWD?

I say anything boosted gets in ;-)

[mx3twinturbo]

Quick one, Im hopin my '86 D-50 will be done next year, will sport trucks be allowed? its technically a mini truck? I would love to compete in every event, Drifting/Drag/Autox (though the last one would be only for fun LOL)

[slowbubblecar]

I didn't get a link to their exact requirements in my response back from Bill at BIR. He did say "Camaros, Mustangs, Firebirds Corvettes, Vipers and the like are not considered Sport Compact vehicles. Neither are Full size trucks."

Not a big deal for me. Sounds like I would have been one of the slower cars anyways.

[TalonFiero]

Its basically all imports, american sport compacts, and american fullsize vehicles as long as they are fwd and not a v8.

[Halon]

But there was a Red C6 running.

[Kracka]

I'm sure BIR wants to advertise these events as "sport compact only" but they'll obviously allow other paying customers in. I really don't think its a big deal, its not like people were fighting for track time.

[Halon]

I agree. That's what I'm trying to get at though. There were times when we were simply sitting in the stands, waiting for something. Allowing some Vette's and Viper's to come join in on the fun would have been nice.

[MustGoFaster]

I'm with Kracka on this, advertise to the group you want, let anybody that shows up in. If you want to get more than a few strays (or local people that know they will get in), maybe put in a line like "30 non-sport compact cars allowed, first come first served". I think the main thing is to have an event to attract people from a "different" market. In the end, we all like cars and racing. Even if we don't like each others cars, most of us can still get along.


I have yet to go to any car event where they won't let you in if you're willing to pay, even if you don't have the "right" car.

One other thing you might consider is maybe offering the AX people a few $$ off on some drag strip time. Pay for the AX and give the option for $20-25 time trial only drag strip passes. I would suggest it could go the other way around as well, but the AX doesn't really have 2 sections, it's pure competition.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Just do no carburated cars unless they are an import motor.

[john]

Originally Posted by TalonFiero

Its basically all imports, american sport compacts, and american fullsize vehicles as long as they are fwd and not a v8.

This is what I was looking at. I don't have a V8 anyhow