Evo X upgrades - Page 72

**Kracka** · 09-05-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

Thanks Kracka. I ordered a couple assortment packs of fuses off Amazon. I'll revisit that when I get the parts for the afpr install.

I believe there are spare fuses in the fuse box that you can use.

**mlomker** · 09-05-2010

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Originally Posted by Kracka

I believe there are spare fuses in the fuse box that you can use.

I think it was 5,10, 20amp. I used the 20 when it blew.

**Kracka** · 09-05-2010

Drive your silly ass to Walmart and buy a big pack and throw a 30 in

**mlomker** · 09-05-2010

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Drive your silly ass to Walmart and buy a big pack and throw a 30 in

When you can get a 120-pack assortment from Amazon for $8 or a 6-pack at the convenience store for the same price then it seems like a no-brainer to me.

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I'm going to stop fucking around with the ID2000 injectors. It doesn't look they are ever going to be 'drivable' in any real sense. It's noticeably better now with the settings that Tephra has found but idling and not misfiring even 99% of the time will still result in endless CELs and embarrassment when the car dies in heavy traffic.

I have a set of DW1300's on the way.

**Kracka** · 09-05-2010

That sucks man

Glad you're making progress though.

FattyBoomBatty · 09-05-2010

Oh snap, I'll give you 100 bucks for those used 2000's.

**mlomker** · 09-06-2010

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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty

Oh snap, I'll give you 100 bucks for those used 2000's.

I'll leave it up to Shane whether we should give up on the 2k's. The 1300's would be easy to resell if I need to. I'd just like them on hand for my next visit to DB.

My problem is that the ID's and the intake seem to have turned one problem with my car into three.

1) AFR fluctuations at cruise that spike up into the 18's and cause the car to slow down, for lack of a better term. I assume this is a problem with the intake design since I experienced a similar (but more severe) version of that before the intake was scaled.

2) The car idles at 14.5-14.7afr on cold start but it idles at 13.2-13.4 the rest of the time (on my gauge). When I go to leave a stoplight the car bogs/stumbles/dies when trying to transition from 1k-2k rpms (where I normally let out the clutch).

If the injectors are too large to transition smoothly from idle then they have to go. If there's another table that can be tweaked for this then cool.

3) The fuel pressure drop above 7k rpms. I have a new fuel filter and BAP installed. An afpr should go in sometime this week. Not sure if this stuff will solve it but it's the last reasonable set of things to do before ripping the Full Blown system out.

mdost03 · 09-06-2010

That sucks, I have only heard good things about the ID injectors besides them possibly having issues on your car.

**mlomker** · 09-06-2010

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Originally Posted by totaleclipse_05

That sucks, I have only heard good things about the ID injectors besides them possibly having issues on your car.

There are threads saying that the DW1300's have identical problems...hunting AFRs at cruise, etc. The problem may very well be the Evo X ECU. Shane has said that they tune perfectly on an AEM and the ID1000 and DW1000's are universally considered to work perfectly on the X.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-e...ml#post8489599

FattyBoomBatty · 09-06-2010

Crazy. Are you presently needing 2000cc of injector? I guess if not, don't use 'em.

**Murlo26** · 09-06-2010

Several people have tuned the DW1300's to work fine, so I think they CAN work, but it might take some time.

Do you maybe have that issue with your return line that I think a few people saw? Or maybe that was just the in tank line for filling the pump setup...can't remember now.

**mlomker** · 09-07-2010

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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty

Are you presently needing 2000cc of injector?

Not at all. I bought them because the choices at the time were 1k or 2k...there was nothing in-between on the X.

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Several people have tuned the DW1300's to work fine, so I think they CAN work, but it might take some time.

Bryan@GST has commented that some sets work and some don't...QA might be spotty. I don't have the funds for a lot of Shane's time right now.

He sent me an email suggesting that we swap the 1000's back in so that I can verify that the intake is 100%. That seemed like a good idea. I'm going to try to do that this week. I just need to get one of the ROMs that he used on the dyno.

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Do you maybe have that issue with your return line that I think a few people saw?

That was the return line filter plugging up in the stock hanger. BlaqOPs removed yours and I don't have a stock hanger.

That problem causes excessive fuel pressure until the pump burns out. I'd be THRILLED to have excessive pressure right now, for any reason. haha.

**scheides** · 09-07-2010

I've heard spotty things on the DW1300's as well, so I'll be curious to see how you like them; the weirdest problem being that they're loud. I've never had loud injectors until I put in the dw800's and if the dw1300's are excessively loud that is just plain weird to me!

They seem like the right size to get though so I wouldn't be afraid to use them. So this is now your 4th set of injectors? Goddamn, might as well build a custom IM that supports 4x fuel rails to round off your mammoth fueling system

**mlomker** · 09-07-2010

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Originally Posted by scheides

So this is now your 4th set of injectors?

FML buddy. Over $2k in injectors now. Hope the DW1300's work out so I can sell the others! I can't hear injectors over my pumps. lol.

**Murlo26** · 09-07-2010

I think the DW1300's will work honestly. Should you be a little nervous...with your luck lately, sure, lol.

But I trust DW, I know people have gotten them to work, so I think Shane can get them to work.

You should be able to recoup most of the ID cost I would think, even used those have to be worth 500+. And the DW1000's are popular, so those should be an easy sell.

Yea you will lose out on some but in the end it will work out hopefully.

**mlomker** · 09-07-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

I think the DW1300's will work honestly.

Yeah, and Shane thought the ID's would be fine too. Per usual there isn't anything assured when it comes to 1000cc+ injectors so we're rolling the dice.

I'm not changing anything on this car if we ever get it to run right.

**Murlo26** · 09-07-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

I'm not changing anything on this car if we ever get it to run right.

I don't blame you and think this is a great idea!

**mlomker** · 09-07-2010

I'm going to ditch the PLX OBDII gauge that I'd purchased. I determined that when it is connected to the ECU that the NAV doesn't work. It doesn't provide information that is useful when driving hard and it doesn't log so it's a waste of time. I think I'll just get Tactrix logging set up like scheides does (hopefully that doesnt F with the NAV).

I'm going to put a Prosport fuel pressure gauge in that second pod.

**mlomker** · 09-07-2010

Swapped my injectors in DB's parking lot this evening. The DW1000's brought the car back to life. The AFRs are still wild at cruise. Either it's the intake or my stock fpr isn't doing it's job anymore.

I think I'll leave the intake on if it doesn't cause CELs to be thrown.

simulatedwood · 09-07-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

I'm going to ditch the PLX OBDII gauge that I'd purchased. I determined that when it is connected to the ECU that the NAV doesn't work. It doesn't provide information that is useful when driving hard and it doesn't log so it's a waste of time. I think I'll just get Tactrix logging set up like scheides does (hopefully that doesnt F with the NAV).

Confimed NAV works great with the tactrix logging.

Sorry to here about all your issues, be patient, it will all work out. If you need any help troubleshooting, i am willing to help however I can. (I.e. logging or whatever)