MitsuStyle MitsuStyle

Go Back   MitsuStyle > The Homefront! > The Parking Lot - On & Off Topic

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-12-2009   #1
CVD
Sten Sniper
 
CVD's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Hope
Drives: Evo VIII RS
Posts: 1,385
Send a message via AIM to CVD
Re: TMIC on a DSM? Crazy!

I'm skeptical of anything that allows air to enter the engine bay without passing through the radiator. DSMs have cooling problems enough as it is.
CVD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2009   #2
123abc
wants to be sideways...
 
123abc's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Winona Minnesota
Drives: Loud cars
Posts: 2,764
Send a message via AIM to 123abc Send a message via MSN to 123abc
Re: TMIC on a DSM? Crazy!

Quote:
Originally Posted by CVD View Post
I'm skeptical of anything that allows air to enter the engine bay without passing through the radiator. DSMs have cooling problems enough as it is.
How do DSM's have more of a cooling issue than other cars?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D.
Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 93GSX5SD
I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
123abc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2009   #3
dumb_ricer
Hates Everything
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Las Vegas
Drives: Neon
Posts: 445
Send a message via AIM to dumb_ricer
Re: TMIC on a DSM? Crazy!

Quote:
Originally Posted by 123abc View Post
How do DSM's have more of a cooling issue than other cars?
They tend to make more power than other cars.
__________________
420A > LS1 > All Else
Superchargers > Nitrous > Turbochargers
I > All else
dumb_ricer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2009   #4
goodhart
Transmission destroyer
 
goodhart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
Send a message via MSN to goodhart
Re: TMIC on a DSM? Crazy!

IDK, this looks like an awesome idea to me, it looks like an old guy is doing it too which more than likely gives him no reason to lie about how welll it does or doesn't perform like a younger person might do. It limits the size of intercooler sure, but it's original, very well done, and as far as we know it performs well. This guy has made a whole bunch of cool shit right in his garage too I think its pretty cool what he's doing


Quote:
Originally Posted by CVD View Post
I'm skeptical of anything that allows air to enter the engine bay without passing through the radiator. DSMs have cooling problems enough as it is.
I don't get it, he moved the intercooler, the radiator didn't move....



EDIT: more info I found on the IAT's


Quote:
Originally Posted by JAXWHITE1G on orlando DSM
As posted earlier I got some data on the efficency of my intercooler. I have done some Research Diving in the past and was trained to collect scientific data for study. But I was not tought to interpret it. I do know that the data collected is not good data. there were to many inconsistancies to be accurate. All were done on a long highway on ramp and posted speed was not exceeded. But traffic made it difficult to repeat experiments and the low speed ranges are passed by so quickly it was difficult to lock the temps at the right time to get good readings. I did learn one thing. I need a cold air intake system.
The first test was acceleration and highway cruise no boost.
outsid air temp 76 Deg
mph - inlet temp - outlet temp
20 - 131 - 91
30 - 135 - 97
40 - 135 - 95
50 - 144 - 93
60 - 147 - 93
70 - 161 - 100

15lbs boost
mph - inlet temp - outlet temp
20 - 248 - 131
30 - xxx - xxx
40 - 262 - 138
50 - 257 - 134
60 - 302 - 159
70 - 331 - 174
These were averaged after several runs and I was so unhappy with the difficulty of getting acurate data that I forgot to test with the water sprayers on. I will do some testing again late at night when there is less traffic and I can get some more consistant data.
Also I was WRONG on the temp drop at idle. My data is collected in celcius and I have to convert to farenheit. My calculations were wrong the average temp is 10 above ambiant but will not go above that even idling for ten minutes.
I promised good or bad I would post the numbers so here they are. Tell me what you think!
__________________



Quote:
Originally Posted by scheides View Post
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.

Last edited by goodhart; 06-15-2009 at 10:31 AM..
goodhart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2009   #5
CVD
Sten Sniper
 
CVD's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Hope
Drives: Evo VIII RS
Posts: 1,385
Send a message via AIM to CVD
Re: TMIC on a DSM? Crazy!

Quote:
Originally Posted by goodhart View Post
I don't get it, he moved the intercooler, the radiator didn't move....
You're forcing air into the engine bay behind the radiator and increasing the overall air pressure in the engine bay. This means less air will be going through the radiator.
CVD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2009   #6
goodhart
Transmission destroyer
 
goodhart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
Send a message via MSN to goodhart
Re: TMIC on a DSM? Crazy!

Quote:
Originally Posted by CVD View Post
You're forcing air into the engine bay behind the radiator and increasing the overall air pressure in the engine bay. This means less air will be going through the radiator.
I don't see how it could be much worse than putting a big FMIC right in front of the radiator though, Subaru's seem to do it without cooling issues, but then again I don't know much about aerodynamics either
__________________



Quote:
Originally Posted by scheides View Post
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
goodhart is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.