July 8th: 1st Annual Modern Automotive Performance Proving Grounds

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Originally Posted by 2003eclipse

I can always get kicked out no biggy...

Fleet Farm has chaps from $60 and up. Sure you'll look more gay than Veto from the Soprano's when you wear them but they are legal for the track.

Supposedly my Max will run a 10.6 but I'll never launch it that hard. Come on out, I'd love to run your bike just for shnitzngiggle's

[v8klla]

After extensive communication with Al Corda, the owner of Rock Falls Raceway, we were informed that the structure of our event does not comply with their track rental agreement in regards to charging people to attend a private event. As such we are not in a position to rent the track without charging said fees and have been forced to cancel the event.

I want to assure you that we did everything in our power to avoid having to cancel the event we all worked so hard to organize. Throughout my conversation with Al I stressed the power of the internet and online communities in regards to attendance and interest in the event. I pointed out the vast number of new potential customers that would be attending and conveyed to him the number of people that had never heard of Rock Falls Raceway. I conveyed the number of forums that were embracing this event as their own and my opinion regarding the tremendous marketing value such an event would have for Rock Falls Raceway. I even offered to cover the remainder of the fees for any amount of cars less than 150 as we were very confident in regards to attendance, but to no avail.

For those that are interested in the position of Rock Falls Raceway regarding this event I will do my best to explain Al’s thoughts. The major reason for his decision is his feeling that our event would adversely affect attendance of his future events like the sport compact day on July 28th. I tried my best to explain that the majority of those attending our event would either still attend the event on the 28th or would never have attended at all. I feel that our event would have had great success based upon the support of local forums and our customer base, not simply because it was another race day at Rock Falls. He also conveyed his dismay with the fact that this conversation occurred at the very last minute, which is based on a simple misunderstanding regarding the terms of the rental which was not realize until recently. He feels that the event was not appropriately advertised and that Rock Falls would not have control over the event and as such their reputation could be marred based on lack of attendance. I once again stressed the power of the internet as well as the marketing and advertising ourselves and the supporting forums had done for the event, but to no avail. Our conversation ended when Al had decided that the risks to his reputation and future events were greater than the marketing benefits of our event.

In a final effort I recommended that we change the structure of the event so that Rock Falls Raceway would collect and charge for attending, but based upon the above states reasons this was not a possibility.

I would like to personally apologize to the forums and individuals that were looking forward to attending this event, and I urge you to visit the following link:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mappg/petition.html

The purpose of this petition is to convey to Rock Falls Raceway to power of the internet and online automotive communities. Perhaps we can persuade Al to reconsider if we can show him enough interest in the event.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and again I am very sorry it came to this.

Chris Carey

[A//// Guy]

That really blows... Petition signed.

[Swifty1638]

Wow.

-A. Swift

[TkrPerformance]

well a big fuck you to them for this. Aly took off work. I paided extra to get pte to rebuild my turbo in a day and get it back to me fast.

[v8klla]

Again guys this is partially our fault, I assumed they knew we were charging and they assumed that we weren't. I wish we had found out sooner, we were really looking forward to this...

[Swifty1638]

So charge. Tell them to, or you guys charge. Someone's gotta make money. Not like they've got anything else scheduled that sunday! Shit.

-A. Swift

This is a big mistake for RF. This would have been my first time going, as i assume it would have been others first time as well. For him to talk about his reputation i think is a little extream. Now he will be getting no business on the 8th instead of some. This was going to be a fun day where people would have been able to get more that just 1 or 2 runs in. Even tho i didnt, i know a lot of people put a lot of last min money into their cars for this.

[TkrPerformance]

I tihnk I can say that most of us on here dont go to the sport compact days because we want more runs and a preped track. I would not want to be there all day and get in a few runs when most of the cars that go are in the 14's or higher

[carltalon]

Petition signed. I was really looking forward to this event. I agree with TKR I cant stand sport compact days.

[v8klla]

Please keep the feedback coming guys, I will be forwarding the petition and links to the forums to Al in the next few days in hopes of a last ditch reconsideration...

Chris

[EclipseGST]

"Can we agree that your car is a piece of shit"?

Famous words from Al himself when we tried to test the parachute on the back of the corsica. Sure the car looks like shit, but what if we tried to get the car to look like that? And it was for the same fucking reason as well.

I highly doubt I would have been ready for this race but I still would have came and watched. Its fucking pathetic when they pull this shit.

Hey Al... Can we agree you, your track, and rules are a piece of shit?

They just lost any business I would have gave them. Looks like Tri-state and Cedar Falls it is.

Petition signed for everyone else.

[TkrPerformance]

I would just tell them you are not taking any money for it now. and just get every one that want to go paypal you or stop by the shop to cover it. Sence it is not to make money on this at all just for everyone to go and do somthing fun on sunday.

[Swifty1638]

I can say that with as few runs on sport compact day as most get, I won't be in attendance. I guess Brainerd will be my track on wednesday evenings.

-A. Swift

[EclipseGST]

Shit... You could collect money out on the highway from people driving up. You arent collecting it at the track. Who's to say you cant collect it before hand or out on the street somewhere?

[niterydr]

I can see both sides on this topic.
It sucks but Al does not want anyone profiting on his track.
MAP doesn't want to have to shell out the $2k or whatever to "rent" the track for the day.

In the end, I think a lack of communication and understanding lead to the breakdown of this event.

Has anyone talked to Cedar Falls or Tri-state about track rental?
BIR?
Or as other people have mentioned, cover the track rental and ask for donations incongnito .
Good luck guys, I would have loved to see this event happen.

[Swifty1638]

Try BIR. Everyone get some VHT.

-A. Swift

[Kracka]

This really sucks. I haven't been to RF in a few years and now I can guarantee I won't be attending any of their days this year, and chances are never again.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by niterydr

I can see both sides on this topic.
It sucks but Al does not want anyone profiting on his track.
.

Chris told RF that he was willing to give them the profit (if any) they make off the admission price. He is doing nothing to RF except bringing in business and revenue that otherwise wouldn't exist.

[scheides]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can personally say that *MOST* of the people I've talked to about going to this would not normally go to Rock Falls, nor would they even track their car. This was the perfect event for people who stand on the sidelines and talk shit (or respectfully) about some of the cars that are usually out there tearing it up to get a helmet on and make a few runs down the track, or even call out some of the 'big dogs' in an effort to show what your car has.

I know most people on this forum know this, but I'm writing this directly for rock falls' info. I own an 05 Evo VIII which is fairy well modified. This is my DD and while I run it through the gears daily, my wife has forbid me to track the car. Ever. Never ever. Fair enough, as I need to get it to work. For this event, she said that I could run it, and because of that, I've been talking to everyone and their grandma about getting their asses to the track so we can see who can do what. My car as it sits should run high 11's, so I feel as though I have a fair shot at a lot of pretty respectable cars out there.

I myself have put a *LOT* of energy (read: time and MONEY) into making sure my car is ready for this event, and to hear that the plug has been pulled makes me SICK! I've also put a TON of energy getting everyone I know that's even remotely into cars into coming (for once) to a drag event. Sorry to everyone I talked smack to, we won't get a chance to see who wins, but it doesn't matter because the EVO OWNZ YOU ANYWAYZ!!!