Ted Cruz

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Honestly, i dont think Hillery will run. she would likely win if she did. but i dont think she will.
Which failed policies are you speaking to? I find it funny how you would use a general statement like that without any specifics. There have been a lot of things that this administration has done very well. The ACA is the first this country has seen, and is working. But like every big change you will get lots of people whining.
I would rather have a person in office that actually cares about the People of this country and working policies that help the People and not just corporations. Conservatives have yet to connect with the people of this country which is their main downfall every primary election. (midterms done count because voter turnout is a fraction of what they are during the primaries. I think it would be actually great if they did away with midterms and just had all of the voting on primary election days just to give the best turnouts)

Yeah, the ACA is working so well that Obama had to break the law several times to personally rewrite parts of it to suit his political agenda at the time. Not his job to do that. Add to that, rates are going up as a whole, not down. Every promise he personally made to the American people to push through that monster has come to be a lie. They also lied about enrollment numbers to save it from going away. Remember that 7 million mark they say they reached by March 31, 2014? They lied about that too. He said it would create jobs, it didn't, well unless you count companies that dropped full time employees to part time and then hired other part time employees to make it up. Even still now, it's the DMV of healthcare. And rates are gonna go up from here. Can you tell me why Obama Inc is exempt from it if its so great? At it's time of passing the overwhelming majority of Amreicans didn't want it, many still don't. So is it his job to do what he wants, or what we as Americans want?

Let's talk about forgeign policy, its a joke. I swear he's playing for the other team. Turning his back on Israel who has been our long time ally in the region and making friends with Iran who has said many times, including recently that it wants to destroy Israel. He can't call terrorism what it really is, FUCKING TERRORISM! He's cutting a closed room nuclear deal with Iran which he claims will bring about better US/Iranian relations, but just a few days ago the Ayatollah Khomeini is saying "Death to America" in a recent speech?

Lets talk domestic policy. How are race relations in this country? The worst I can ever remember them. Obama and his DoJ have blood on their hands from purposely stoking the flames of hate and racism on isuues that had nothing to do with racism. They even purposely twisted the facts to try and create racism where it wasn't. If I was officer Wilson, I'd have me the biggest, baddest lawyer I could find sueing both their asses for everything they're worth. And he could win his case aganst them both on a government level as well as personally, because they both showed full blowm racism in their jobs and personally against him.

How about his border policy? Oh wait, he doesn't have one unless "open door" is it. And that is a dereliction of duty as commander in chief of this country as he is bound by the US Constitution to secure and protect our borders. And if you think it's just illegals coming across to pick lettuce and berries you are just plain stupid. The FBI has already located 20-30 terror training camps in the USA. Why hasn't he shut them down?

How about domestic policy? How many people are on welfare, food stamps, government housing, government cheese since he took office? More than ever which goes against "the economy has greatly improved" shit he keeps saying.
Explain to me how making people more dependent on big government helps them? It only helps big government.

And you can call me right wing crazy if you like, but I have yet to see Obama or Holder discuss openly in any debate any of these facts. They just give their speeches, but refuse to back it up in a real debate with those who call them out on it. Real convenient how that's been working.

I guess he bought that $8 million dollar mansion in Hawaii with money he earned by "helping the people"? Or was it from helping corporations like GE?

[AwdGSX13]

ACA is a joke, the whiners are the ones who have increased rates to help foot the bill for the people who can't afford it. Speaking of i'm sure my healthcare costs will be going up another 20%.

At least his immigration bill is having some setbacks.





*Worst President Ever*

[jeremy1375]

Initial polling puts him in the single digits.

[1ViciousGSX]

The thing with polls is this,.....

"I can get you any result you want, good or bad for whomever you want, if I get to phrase the polling questions"

It's way too early for polling to make any difference.

In today's politics polls are used as a way to steer the populous towards candidates the elites want in power.

[1ViciousGSX]

It's all in the fuzzy D.C. Math,.....

http://dailysignal.com/2015/03/23/di...4millionPeople

[jeremy1375]

Here is the big problem with Tea Party numbers. There are 435 members of the House. There are 100 members of the Senate. Of those 535 congressional members, about 83 are considered Tea Party members. That equates to 15.5% percent of congress. The makeup of congress should give a good rough idea of the voting population.

The 2012 primaries had no Tea Party favorites.

[jeremy1375]

This online bookie puts Cruz at 33-1 currently.

http://sports.bovada.lv/sports-betti...ical-props.jsp

[Shane@DBPerformance]

I think he has a good chance, if nobody else enters the race.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

He said it would create jobs, it didn't, well unless you count companies that dropped full time employees to part time and then hired other part time employees to make it up.

Complete Fucking bullshit!

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Can you tell me why Obama Inc is exempt from it if its so great? At it's time of passing the overwhelming majority of Amreicans didn't want it, many still don't. So is it his job to do what he wants, or what we as Americans want?

Funny because i myself is exempt from the ACA. Why? Because i have healthcare through my employer, Why would the administration have to get on a ACA plan when they have healthcare though the plan put forth by their employer. Word trickery there, good job.

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Let's talk about forgeign policy, its a joke. I swear he's playing for the other team. Turning his back on Israel who has been our long time ally in the region and making friends with Iran who has said many times, including recently that it wants to destroy Israel. He can't call terrorism what it really is, FUCKING TERRORISM! He's cutting a closed room nuclear deal with Iran which he claims will bring about better US/Iranian relations, but just a few days ago the Ayatollah Khomeini is saying "Death to America" in a recent speech?

He turned his back on Israel because they were trying to fuck up a peace deal with iran to make sure they dont develope Weapons grade plutonium. Going from energy producing plutonium to weapons grade is quite different.
http://www.ccnr.org/plute.html , On top of that the stupid republicans with Yahoo were interfering with the talks before a resolution could even be made. it would be like me walking into a company directors meeting and telling them they cant make a decision about the company without my approval.

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Lets talk domestic policy. How are race relations in this country? The worst I can ever remember them. Obama and his DoJ have blood on their hands from purposely stoking the flames of hate and racism on isuues that had nothing to do with racism. They even purposely twisted the facts to try and create racism where it wasn't. If I was officer Wilson, I'd have me the biggest, baddest lawyer I could find sueing both their asses for everything they're worth. And he could win his case aganst them both on a government level as well as personally, because they both showed full blowm racism in their jobs and personally against him.

Stoking the flames? Really? The republican party has been stoking those flames well before the administration. Since when did Obama come out and say anything race related in this? By offering condolences and saying the DOJ will investigate, which they did and found nothing. Do you want the president to now come out and suck the dick of the cop? The president does not control the thoughts and minds of the people on both sides. Personally i dont agree with either side of this. I think the Black Lives Matter protests are a joke, all lives matter. but on the other hand, HUMAN brutality, on the part of the police, as well as humans in general sucks. And people need to just stop being so fucking violent towards other humans.

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

How about his border policy? Oh wait, he doesn't have one unless "open door" is it. And that is a dereliction of duty as commander in chief of this country as he is bound by the US Constitution to secure and protect our borders. And if you think it's just illegals coming across to pick lettuce and berries you are just plain stupid. The FBI has already located 20-30 terror training camps in the USA. Why hasn't he shut them down?

So on one hand, you have the repubs saying that they dont want the government in their houses, and on the other hand, the government isnt doing enough monitoring of the civilians? Give me a break you cant have it both ways.
On the Open border policy, do you feel a bigger fence would be better, Remember all of us are technically aliens, whether they came over on the mayflower, or much later. Import of illegal immigrants has gone down SIGNIFICANTLY since this administration came into the second term. Farmers and companies hiring migrant workers are fueling the import of illegal immigrants. So should the administration start prosecuting farmers for hiring immigrants and not doing background checks? im sure that will go over very well with the cons.

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

How about domestic policy? How many people are on welfare, food stamps, government housing, government cheese since he took office? More than ever which goes against "the economy has greatly improved" shit he keeps saying.
Explain to me how making people more dependent on big government helps them? It only helps big government.

This is actually untrue, and there are well stated facts that welfare has a better rate of return on the economy than any other social program

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

And you can call me right wing crazy if you like, but I have yet to see Obama or Holder discuss openly in any debate any of these facts. They just give their speeches, but refuse to back it up in a real debate with those who call them out on it. Real convenient how that's been working.

I guess he bought that $8 million dollar mansion in Hawaii with money he earned by "helping the people"? Or was it from helping corporations like GE?

LOL, As opposed to republican senators, and congressmen sucking on the teet of the oil companys, that are DESTROYING whole ecosystems. or giants like Monsanto bullying farmers, and destroying insect populations vital to pollinating crops.
You are a right wing crazy, and im sure you will call me a left wing nut. But what the big difference between us, is that i believe money and race does not drive everything in this world. I would not trade our air quality for industry, i would not trade animal populations for money.

[tpunx99GSX]

oh and on the ACA. I know you probably wont read this article, or think its some left wing propaganda, but not everyone shares the conservatives point of view on this. Including hospitals.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...l=facebook_sf#

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by Kracka

he's too extreme to get elected on the national level. I did not vote for him in the primaries though

Exactly this! There are things that I like about him, and things that I think he's a complete idiot for. But he's very polarizing. It might work well in a place with the right demographic, but not in a national election.

[tpunx99GSX]

https://www.facebook.com/mcmorrisrod...544772/?type=1 oh and here is the post they are talking about with teh comments.

[AwdGSX13]

I'm all for equal healthcare and helping those who need it, but when it affects me and what i have to pay that's absurd. My deductible doubled to 3k! 6k for families!! And my premiums have constantly gone up. Now i know you can argue that they would have gone up anyway. But the initial raise of 20% is ridiculous.

So yes i'm sure there are many happy customers, but there is two sides to the fence.

[jeremy1375]

^ The roll out so far of the ACA certainly hasn't been perfect, but it's still not fully implemented. In 2014, the provision kicked in which requires insurance companies to accept a customer whether or not they have a pre-existing condition (ie cancer) as well as not charge the customer extra.

The full penalty for not having health insurance doesn't fully kick in until 2016, so the penalty is still relatively small for not having it. I would bet that those who still choose to not have insurance will change their minds once the penalty is fully implemented. That should bring insurance costs down more.

In the meantime, you are still getting a better value for your insurance, because if you or your family contract a serious disease like cancer, you can maintain insurance to pay for it.

[goodhart]

Anyone think Ted Cruz would have traded 5 senior Taliban leaders for a known traitor ?

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by goodhart

Anyone think Ted Cruz would have traded 5 senior Taliban leaders for a known traitor ?

Negative Ghostrider.

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by goodhart

Anyone think Ted Cruz would have traded 5 senior Taliban leaders for a known traitor ?

Oh how fun, the speculation game. Anyone think Reagan would secretly facilitate the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo to secure the release of hostages and then divert the profits of said sales to Nicaraguan rebels?

I bet you'd speculate no, but he did. But Cruz, of course he and his Goldman Sachs VP wife are about pure goodness.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

Oh how fun, the speculation game. Anyone think Reagan would secretly facilitate the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo to secure the release of hostages and then divert the profits of said sales to Nicaraguan rebels?

I bet you'd speculate no, but he did. But Cruz, of course he and his Goldman Sachs VP wife are about pure goodness.

Anyone think a president would start a war with a country under the guise of looking for WMDs with no proof and no help from the UN, Invade the wrong country as retaliation for the attacks of 9/11 and destabilizing the entire region, using private companies with no accountability to torture prisoners against the Geneva convention, all the while fighting two wars that we couldnt afford because the housing boom was ready to blow up that ended up destroying the economy? yeah that happened too.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

^ The roll out so far of the ACA certainly hasn't been perfect, but it's still not fully implemented. In 2014, the provision kicked in which requires insurance companies to accept a customer whether or not they have a pre-existing condition (ie cancer) as well as not charge the customer extra.

The full penalty for not having health insurance doesn't fully kick in until 2016, so the penalty is still relatively small for not having it. I would bet that those who still choose to not have insurance will change their minds once the penalty is fully implemented. That should bring insurance costs down more.

In the meantime, you are still getting a better value for your insurance, because if you or your family contract a serious disease like cancer, you can maintain insurance to pay for it.

There was a recent article from the CBO that stated the costs of the ACA are actually lower than expected. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...osts-cbo-says/

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

There was a recent article from the CBO that stated the costs of the ACA are actually lower than expected. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...osts-cbo-says/

They go back and forth on the issue. I believe the 2015 revision says it will cost more than expected. The bottom line is they won't know for sure until the whole thing is implemented. The individual mandate needs to be in full effect before the whole thing can work. Once that kicks in and the "invincibles" start either buying the insurance or paying the penalty for not having it, we will start to see the thing really work. I suspect that it's no accident that it fully kicks in in 2016.

Republicans are talking about needing to come up with a replacement for the ACA. The fact that they recently threatened to shutdown Homeland Security is good evidence that they lack foresight and are playing checkers instead of chess. They simply will not be able to come up with any type of health reform that requires insurance companies to accept and not penalize customers with pre-existing conditions without also having something like an individual mandate. If they believe they can, they don't understand basic math.

This is my prediction that I came up with all by myself. In 2016 the individual mandate will come into full effect and and insurance rates will begin to come into line in time for the elections. Republican promises to dismantle it when they win will encounter huge problems when it's realized that thousands of people with serious diseases will lose their health insurance on the Republicans plan.